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[2003:cb:c708:ef00:7443:a23c:26b8:b96]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u22-20020adfa196000000b0020ad517ce4bsm217625wru.52.2022.04.28.09.14.11 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 28 Apr 2022 09:14:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <34000b9d-1fc3-fef5-d048-3cb3f8a36f1d@redhat.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2022 18:14:11 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.6.2 Subject: Re: [RFC 1/3] mm: change vma_is_anonymous to vma_is_private_anon Content-Language: en-US To: Nico Pache , Matthew Wilcox Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, Michael Ellerman , Benjamin Herrenschmidt , Paul Mackerras , Alexander Viro , Andrew Morton , Nicholas Piggin , Logan Gunthorpe , Hari Bathini , "Aneesh Kumar K.V" , Yang Shi , Miaohe Lin , William Kucharski , Hugh Dickins References: <20220421190533.1601879-1-npache@redhat.com> <20220421190533.1601879-2-npache@redhat.com> <1f0f3254-31bd-5d09-6520-1897b3c5755b@redhat.com> From: David Hildenbrand Organization: Red Hat In-Reply-To: <1f0f3254-31bd-5d09-6520-1897b3c5755b@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 22.04.22 16:00, Nico Pache wrote: > > > On 4/21/22 15:28, Matthew Wilcox wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 03:05:31PM -0400, Nico Pache wrote: >>> The vma_is_anonymous function isn't fully indicative of what it checks. >>> >>> Without having full knowledge of the mmap process, one may incorrectly >>> assume this covers all types of anonymous memory; which is not the case. >> >> Is your complaint that anonymous memory can also be found in file VMAs >> that were mapped with MAP_PRIVATE? ie COWed pages? > I should have been more descriptive in my commit msg about how I came to this > conclusion. > > From my understanding of the mmap process, a vma->vm_ops field is only NULL when > mmapped as !file and !shared: > > if (file){ > ... > } else if (vm_flags & VM_SHARED) { //ANON SHARED > error = shmem_zero_setup(vma); > if (error) > goto free_vma; > } else { //ANON PRIVATE > vma_set_anonymous(vma); //set vma->vm_ops= NULL > } > > To me this means that the VMA is PRIVATE ANON memory. The vma_is_anonymous > function returns true when vm_ops == NULL. So my intentions were to more > accurately describe what we are checking for. I could be wrong though thats why > I started with an RFC :) Shared anon in the kernel is really just shmem. The user space notion is MAP_ANON|MAP_SHARED, but that really just maps to shmem and the kernel doesn't really call that thing anonymous memory. So I agree, renaming this is not appropriate. -- Thanks, David / dhildenb