Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757543AbXEILAQ (ORCPT ); Wed, 9 May 2007 07:00:16 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1755346AbXEILAA (ORCPT ); Wed, 9 May 2007 07:00:00 -0400 Received: from mail.syneticon.net ([213.239.212.131]:42387 "EHLO mail2.syneticon.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754856AbXEIK77 (ORCPT ); Wed, 9 May 2007 06:59:59 -0400 Message-ID: <4641A959.6000704@wpkg.org> Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 12:58:33 +0200 From: Tomasz Chmielewski User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.8) Gecko/20061110 Mandriva/1.5.0.8-1mdv2007.1 (2007.1) Thunderbird/1.5.0.8 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mikpe@it.uu.se, netdev@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Intel IXP4xx network drivers v.2 - Ethernet and HSS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1702 Lines: 43 > On Wed, 9 May 2007 11:35:03 +0200, Marcus Better wrote: >> Lennert Buytenhek wrote: >> > Does that mean that the Debian ARM people have their heads so far >> > up their collective asses that they think that every form of change >> > is bad and are unable to accept that some forms of change might be >> > for the better? >> >> Well, I am not one of the Debian ARM people, just a user... and I do hope the >> EABI port becomes supported in the future! But in the meatime there is a >> crowd of users running Debian on consumer devices like the NSLU2, and they >> need a LE network driver. > > 1) Development _should_ happen in small individually-manageable steps. > It's wrong to delay integration of the new IXP4xx eth driver just > because it's not yet LE-compatible. True. > 2) LE Debian/ARM users do have alternatives: they can use USB-Ethernet > adapters, for instance. In case of Freecom FSG-3, that would be four USB-ethernet adapters. With the cost roughly half of the cost of the whole device. And all USB-ports occupied. Provided you don't use them for something else. Someone could ask "why has this device four mice connected?" :) (for someone who doesn't work much with computers, a USB-ISDN or USB-ethernet adapter looks just like a mouse). And yet another viable alternative is to use a totally different device which is fully supported under Linux or another system, right? :) -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/