Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755283AbXEJD5R (ORCPT ); Wed, 9 May 2007 23:57:17 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754478AbXEJD5F (ORCPT ); Wed, 9 May 2007 23:57:05 -0400 Received: from smtp104.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([209.191.85.214]:33761 "HELO smtp104.mail.mud.yahoo.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1754463AbXEJD5E (ORCPT ); Wed, 9 May 2007 23:57:04 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com.au; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:X-Accept-Language:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Y/0HoqsKiimoo7EK2ll1gdfvvLzt5ExSOHTUflVMmTAqvurr7V6HmotX4ffzbGZ63VHEUNpX4pdSxdsrWzQGSx1jpp+RS1OURt1QaSD76+54h8j4VSI8ybvjERlk7yK8WtF/5rk4x/DP8XvlYsHfmeUa2FsIBOGvPh+ey0Zmgvw= ; X-YMail-OSG: 1HdINiUVM1l0Xnt8FTJNLEg2dhrEsUQhrlINa8pOWAJF1kGMRMaSr1wKeWkzTYNOD_zRK3wDPw-- Message-ID: <46429801.8030202@yahoo.com.au> Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 13:56:49 +1000 From: Nick Piggin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051007 Debian/1.7.12-1 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ray Lee CC: Con Kolivas , Ingo Molnar , ck list , Andrew Morton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org Subject: Re: swap-prefetch: 2.6.22 -mm merge plans References: <20070430162007.ad46e153.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <200705100928.34056.kernel@kolivas.org> <464261B5.6030809@yahoo.com.au> <200705101134.34350.kernel@kolivas.org> <46427BDB.30004@yahoo.com.au> <2c0942db0705092048m38b36e7fo3a7c2c59fe1612b2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2c0942db0705092048m38b36e7fo3a7c2c59fe1612b2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1362 Lines: 37 Ray Lee wrote: > On 5/9/07, Nick Piggin wrote: > >> You said it helped with the updatedb problem. That says we should look at >> why it is going bad first, and for example improve use-once algorithms. >> After we do that, then swap prefetching might still help, which is fine. > > > Nick, if you're volunteering to do that analysis, then great. If not, > then you're just providing a airy hope with nothing to back up when or > if that work would ever occur. I'd like to try helping. Tell me your problem. > Further, if you or someone else *does* do that work, then guess what, > we still have the option to rip out the swap prefetching code after > the hypothetical use-once improvements have been proven and merged. > Which, by the way, I've watched people talk about since 2.4. That was, > y'know, a *while* ago. What's wrong with the use-once we have? What improvements are you talking about? > So enough with the stop energy, okay? You're better than that. I don't think it is about energy or being mean, I'm just stating the issues I have with it. -- SUSE Labs, Novell Inc. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/