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From:   Ville =?iso-8859-1?Q?Syrj=E4l=E4?= <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm: Document that power requirements for DP AUX
 transfers
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On Tue, May 03, 2022 at 04:21:08PM -0700, Douglas Anderson wrote:
> When doing DP AUX transfers there are two actors that need to be
> powered in order for the DP AUX transfer to work: the DP source and
> the DP sync. Commit bacbab58f09d ("drm: Mention the power state
> requirement on side-channel operations") added some documentation
> saying that the DP source is required to power itself up (if needed)
> to do AUX transfers. However, that commit doesn't talk anything about
> the DP sink.
> 
> For full fledged DP the sink isn't really a problem. It's expected
> that if an external DP monitor isn't plugged in that attempting to do
> AUX transfers won't work. It's also expected that if a DP monitor is
> plugged in (and thus asserting HPD) that it AUX transfers will work.
> 
> When we're looking at eDP, however, things are less obvious. Let's add
> some documentation about expectations. Here's what we'll say:
> 
> 1. We don't expect the DP AUX transfer function to power on an eDP
> panel. If an eDP panel is physically connected but powered off then it
> makes sense for the transfer to fail.

I don't agree with this. I think the panel should just get powred up
for AUX transfers. Otherwise you can't trust that eg. the /dev/aux
stuff is actually usable.

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Ville Syrj?l?
Intel