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Miller" , Dexuan Cui , Doug Berger , Evan Green , Florian Fainelli , Haiyang Zhang , Hari Bathini , Heiko Carstens , Julius Werner , Justin Chen , KY Srinivasan , Lee Jones , Markus Mayer , Michael Ellerman , Mihai Carabas , Nicholas Piggin , Paul Mackerras , Pavel Machek , Scott Branden , Sebastian Reichel , Shile Zhang , Stephen Hemminger , Sven Schnelle , Thomas Bogendoerfer , Tianyu Lan , Vasily Gorbik , Wang ShaoBo , Wei Liu , zhenwei pi References: <20220427224924.592546-1-gpiccoli@igalia.com> <20220427224924.592546-20-gpiccoli@igalia.com> <0147d038-571b-0802-c210-ccd4d52cd5dd@igalia.com> From: "Guilherme G. Piccoli" In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,NICE_REPLY_A,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 03/05/2022 14:44, Michael Kelley (LINUX) wrote: > [...] >> >> Hi Michael, thanks for your feedback! I agree that your idea could work, >> but...there is one downside: imagine the kmsg_dump() approach is not set >> in some Hyper-V guest, then we would rely in the regular notification >> mechanism [hv_die_panic_notify_crash()], right? >> But...you want then to run this notifier in the informational list, >> which...won't execute *by default* before kdump if no kmsg_dump() is >> set. So, this logic is convoluted when you mix it with the default level >> concept + kdump. > > Yes, you are right. But to me that speaks as much to the linkage > between the informational list and kmsg_dump() being the core > problem. But as I described in my reply to Patch 24, I can live with > the linkage as-is. Thanks for the feedback Michael! > [...] >> I feel the panic notification mechanism does really fit with a >> hypervisor list, it's a good match with the nature of the list, which >> aims at informing the panic notification to the hypervisor/FW. >> Of course we can modify it if you prefer...but please take into account >> the kdump case and how it complicates the logic. > > I agree that the runtime effect of one list vs. the other is nil. The > code works and can stay as you written it. > > I was trying to align from a conceptual standpoint. It was a bit > unexpected that one path would be on the hypervisor list, and the > other path effectively on the informational list. When I see > conceptual mismatches like that, I tend to want to understand why, > and if there is something more fundamental that is out-of-whack. > Totally agree with you here, I am like that as well - try to really understand the details, this is very important specially in this patch set, since it's a refactor and affects every user of the notifiers infrastructure. Again, just to double-say it: feel free to suggest any change for the Hyper-V portion (might as well for any patch in the series, indeed) - you and the other Hyper-V maintainers own this code and I'd be glad to align with your needs, you are honor citizens in the panic notifiers area, being one the most heavy users for that =) Cheers, Guilherme