Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758854AbXEMUGj (ORCPT ); Sun, 13 May 2007 16:06:39 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1757563AbXEMUGc (ORCPT ); Sun, 13 May 2007 16:06:32 -0400 Received: from einhorn.in-berlin.de ([192.109.42.8]:38307 "EHLO einhorn.in-berlin.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1757069AbXEMUGc (ORCPT ); Sun, 13 May 2007 16:06:32 -0400 X-Envelope-From: stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de Message-ID: <46476FBF.5010803@s5r6.in-berlin.de> Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 22:06:23 +0200 From: Stefan Richter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070408 SeaMonkey/1.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Robert P. J. Day" CC: Bernd Eckenfels , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: undeprecate raw driver. References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1820 Lines: 51 Robert P. J. Day wrote: > p.s. before we get into this again where everyone thinks they know > what they're talking about, i suggest consulting the official > definitions of those two terms as defined at > http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/conform.html: > > Deprecated: > ---------- [...] > Obsolete: > -------- > > "An obsolete element or attribute is one for which there is no > guarantee of support by a user agent." Please quote W3C's entire definition of their notion of obsolete: "An obsolete element or attribute is one for which there is no guarantee of support by a user agent. Obsolete elements are no longer defined in the specification, but are listed for historical purposes in the changes section of the reference manual." > there. see the difference? why is this so difficult to grok? [...] If you apply W3C's term "obsolete" 1:1 to kernel features, then it would read: "An obsolete feature is one for which there is no guarantee of support by a randomly picked kernel release. Obsolete features are no longer implemented in this release, but are listed for historical purposes in Documentation/ABI/removed/." Except that the term "obsolete" is already used differently in the context of Linux kernel features; see Documentation/ABI/README. Also, you say "the official definitions of those terms" were defined at http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/conform.html. That's not quite true. What you find there are the definitions of those terms as used in the HTML 4 specification. Nothing more. -- Stefan Richter -=====-=-=== -=-= -==-= http://arcgraph.de/sr/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/