Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1760460AbXEMWm1 (ORCPT ); Sun, 13 May 2007 18:42:27 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1755415AbXEMWmU (ORCPT ); Sun, 13 May 2007 18:42:20 -0400 Received: from einhorn.in-berlin.de ([192.109.42.8]:42755 "EHLO einhorn.in-berlin.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755186AbXEMWmT (ORCPT ); Sun, 13 May 2007 18:42:19 -0400 X-Envelope-From: stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de Message-ID: <46479440.3060305@s5r6.in-berlin.de> Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 00:42:08 +0200 From: Stefan Richter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070408 SeaMonkey/1.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tilman Schmidt CC: "Robert P. J. Day" , Bernd Eckenfels , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: undeprecate raw driver. References: <464770A0.4070809@s5r6.in-berlin.de> <464787F4.8040708@imap.cc> In-Reply-To: <464787F4.8040708@imap.cc> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1411 Lines: 34 Tilman Schmidt wrote: > Am 13.05.2007 22:10 schrieb Stefan Richter: >> So why don't we simply say: >> >> - "Users of feature A are urged to migrate to alternative B." >> - "Feature C will be removed in February 2038." > > Because that's too long to add to a Kconfig tag line. > You need a terse label there. Then put "DEPRECATED" there, because you deprecate the enabling of the option. However, actual users of such a kernel option need the full explanation of what's wrong with the option in order to decide whether to switch it off. The terse label alone is *insufficient*. It's insufficient even if you develop a scheme with two or more different labels for different flavors of deprecation. In fact, generically defined finer-grained flavors of "deprecated" will be too fine-grained to be sensibly used in /real/ feature removal processes. It doesn't lead us anywhere to discuss about deprecation on an abstract level. Discuss concrete features (like the raw driver) with the people who used that feature --- only then you get to know how to proceed with that feature appropriately. -- Stefan Richter -=====-=-=== -=-= -===- http://arcgraph.de/sr/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/