Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 18:26:53 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 18:26:42 -0500 Received: from a59178.upc-a.chello.nl ([62.163.59.178]:23054 "EHLO www.unternet.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 18:26:39 -0500 Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 00:25:06 +0100 From: Frank de Lange To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Journaling pointless with today's hard disks? Message-ID: <20011129002506.A1013@unternet.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Richard B. Johnson wrote: > It isn't that easy! Any kind of power storage within the drive would > have to be isolated with diodes so that it doesn't try to run your > motherboard as well as the drive. This means that +5 volt logic supply > would now be 5.0 - 0.6 = 4.4 volts at the drive, well below the design > voltage. Use of a Schottky diode (0.34 volts) would help somewhat, but you > have now narrowed the normal power design-margin by 90 percent, not good. Another interesting possibility would be to use the momentum of the spinning platters and motor assembly to power the drive electronics, simply by using the motor as a generator. When power fails during a write, use the current generated by the motor to finish the write. Just a wild idea... Cheers//Frank -- WWWWW _______________________ ## o o\ / Frank de Lange \ }# \| / \ ##---# _/ \ #### \ +31-320-252965 / \ lkml-frank@unternet.org / ------------------------- [ "Omnis enim res, quae dando non deficit, dum habetur et non datur, nondum habetur, quomodo habenda est." ] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/