Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754483AbXENMHu (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 May 2007 08:07:50 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751581AbXENMHn (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 May 2007 08:07:43 -0400 Received: from mail.suse.de ([195.135.220.2]:43957 "EHLO mx1.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751149AbXENMHn (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 May 2007 08:07:43 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 14:07:37 +0200 From: Nick Piggin To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: Eric Dumazet , Ingo Molnar , linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Oleg Nesterov , Andrew Morton , Thomas Gleixner Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] convert mmap_sem to a scalable rw_mutex Message-ID: <20070514120737.GE31234@wotan.suse.de> References: <20070511131541.992688403@chello.nl> <20070511155621.GA13150@elte.hu> <46449F61.2060004@cosmosbay.com> <1178903913.2781.20.camel@lappy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1178903913.2781.20.camel@lappy> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1046 Lines: 24 On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 07:18:33PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Fri, 2007-05-11 at 18:52 +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote: > > > > But I personally find this new rw_mutex not scalable at all if you have some > > writers around. > > > > percpu_counter_sum is just a L1 cache eater, and O(NR_CPUS) > > Yeah, that is true; there are two occurences, the one in > rw_mutex_read_unlock() is not strictly needed for correctness. > > Write locks are indeed quite expensive. But given the ratio of > reader:writer locks on mmap_sem (I'm not all that familiar with other > rwsem users) this trade-off seems workable. I guess the problem with that logic is assuming the mmap_sem read side always needs to be scalable. Given the ratio of threaded:unthreaded apps, maybe the trade-off swings away from favour? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/