Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1760380AbXENUPl (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 May 2007 16:15:41 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1759345AbXENUPZ (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 May 2007 16:15:25 -0400 Received: from pentafluge.infradead.org ([213.146.154.40]:58210 "EHLO pentafluge.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1758583AbXENUPY (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 May 2007 16:15:24 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 21:15:16 +0100 From: Christoph Hellwig To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Jean Delvare , Antonino Ingargiola , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.22-rc1 Message-ID: <20070514201516.GA20783@infradead.org> Mail-Followup-To: Christoph Hellwig , Linus Torvalds , Jean Delvare , Antonino Ingargiola , Linux Kernel Mailing List References: <5486cca80705131150u313eeb43i30bf040e160ac419@mail.gmail.com> <20070514081022.7fcee97f@hyperion.delvare> <5486cca80705140134r318296b8k37ad6f4562b4b535@mail.gmail.com> <20070514141437.631fcfd1@hyperion.delvare> <5486cca80705140628w5ff43ebdqf6a5413203226d5@mail.gmail.com> <20070514172138.1c870793@hyperion.delvare> <20070514202419.33a90f57@hyperion.delvare> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by pentafluge.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1159 Lines: 25 On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 11:43:45AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > On Mon, 14 May 2007, Jean Delvare wrote: > > > > Sure, we don't allow that. Except for xfsprogs in 2.6.1, procps in > > 2.6.4, oprofile in 2.6.13 and udev in 2.6.19, of course. > > And we really complained about it! The oprofile thing should be fixed, > btw, and yeah,if udev breaks any more, I'll have to stop taking patches > from Greg. That thing has been a disaster, and everybody involved should > be ashamed and now hopefully *very* aware of the fact that we don't break > user-level interfaces. sysfs is an even bigger desaster. Even if people know they can't break userspace apis sysfs can force it on them. As long as we tightly couple kernel data structures and a userspace ABI that's unavoidable. Unfortunately sorting that mess out properly would be such a massive amount of work that it'd alsmost require a 2.7 series. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/