Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758841AbXEPN6T (ORCPT ); Wed, 16 May 2007 09:58:19 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756047AbXEPN6J (ORCPT ); Wed, 16 May 2007 09:58:09 -0400 Received: from lazybastard.de ([212.112.238.170]:52284 "EHLO longford.lazybastard.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756039AbXEPN6H (ORCPT ); Wed, 16 May 2007 09:58:07 -0400 Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 15:53:19 +0200 From: =?utf-8?B?SsO2cm4=?= Engel To: John Stoffel Cc: Jamie Lokier , David Woodhouse , akpm@osdl.org, Evgeniy Polyakov , Albert Cahalan , Greg KH , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Oeser , Pekka Enberg , linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, Jan Engelhardt , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Thomas Gleixner Subject: Re: [PATCH] LogFS take three Message-ID: <20070516135318.GK5472@lazybastard.org> References: <20070515151919.GA32510@lazybastard.org> <17994.1241.436841.681216@stoffel.org> <20070515191926.GB1220@lazybastard.org> <1179291255.2859.195.camel@shinybook.infradead.org> <20070516110933.GA5472@lazybastard.org> <20070516113434.GC20482@mail.shareable.org> <20070516115003.GD5472@lazybastard.org> <17995.2550.581854.8393@stoffel.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <17995.2550.581854.8393@stoffel.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1801 Lines: 56 On Wed, 16 May 2007 09:41:10 -0400, John Stoffel wrote: > Jörn> On Wed, 16 May 2007 12:34:34 +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote: > > Jörn> How many of you have worked for IBM before? Vowels are not > evil. ;) > > Nope, they're not. I just think that LogFS isn't descriptive enough, > or more accurately, is the *wrong* description of this filesystem. That was the whole point. JFFS2, the journaling flash filesystem, is a strictly log-structured filesystem. LogFS has a journal. It is also the filesystem that tries to scale logarithmically, as Arnd has noted. Maybe I should call it Log2 to emphesize this point. Log1 would be horrible scalability. > flashfs works for me. It's longer, but hey, that's ok. Even flshfs > might work. Oh wait, flesh? flash? flush? Too confusing... :-) Maybe. FFS or flash filesystem already exists. And YAFFS, yet another flash filesystem, would be older than flashfs. My experience is that no matter which name I pick, people will complain anyway. Previous suggestions included: jffs3 jefs engelfs poofs crapfs sweetfs cutefs dynamic journaling fs - djofs tfsfkal - the file system formerly known as logfs Plus today: FFFS flashfs fredfs bob shizzle Imo they all suck. LogFS also sucks, but it allows me to make a stupid joke and keep my logfs.org domain. Jörn -- There are two ways of constructing a software design: one way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. -- C. A. R. Hoare - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/