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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RDNS_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Zijlstra > Sent: 31 May 2022 15:44 > To: Allister, Jack > Cc: bp@alien8.de; diapop@amazon.co.uk; hpa@zytor.com; jmattson@google.com= ; joro@8bytes.org; > kvm@vger.kernel.org; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; metikaya@amazon.co.uk;= mingo@redhat.com; > pbonzini@redhat.com; rkrcmar@redhat.com; sean.j.christopherson@intel.com;= tglx@linutronix.de; > vkuznets@redhat.com; wanpengli@tencent.com; x86@kernel.org > Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL]...\n >=20 >=20 > On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 02:02:36PM +0000, Jack Allister wrote: > > The reasoning behind this is that you may want to run a guest at a > > lower CPU frequency for the purposes of trying to match performance > > parity between a host of an older CPU type to a newer faster one. >=20 > That's quite ludicrus. Also, then it should be the host enforcing the > cpufreq, not the guest. I'll bite... What's ludicrous about wanting to run a guest at a lower CPU f= req to minimize observable change in whatever workload it is running? Paul