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[91.219.240.2]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id wj17-20020a170907051100b006fed9a0eb17sm388609ejb.187.2022.06.01.01.03.06 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 01 Jun 2022 01:03:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Vitaly Kuznetsov To: Peter Zijlstra , "Durrant, Paul" Cc: "Allister, Jack" , "bp@alien8.de" , "diapop@amazon.co.uk" , "hpa@zytor.com" , "jmattson@google.com" , "joro@8bytes.org" , "kvm@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "metikaya@amazon.co.uk" , "mingo@redhat.com" , "pbonzini@redhat.com" , "rkrcmar@redhat.com" , "sean.j.christopherson@intel.com" , "tglx@linutronix.de" , "wanpengli@tencent.com" , "x86@kernel.org" Subject: Re: ...\n In-Reply-To: References: <20220531140236.1435-1-jalliste@amazon.com> <059ab3327ac440479ecfdf49fa054347@EX13D32EUC003.ant.amazon.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2022 10:03:06 +0200 Message-ID: <87r148olol.fsf@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RDNS_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Peter Zijlstra writes: > On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 02:52:04PM +0000, Durrant, Paul wrote: ... >> >> I'll bite... What's ludicrous about wanting to run a guest at a lower >> CPU freq to minimize observable change in whatever workload it is >> running? > > *why* would you want to do that? Everybody wants their stuff done > faster. > FWIW, I can see a valid use-case: imagine you're running some software which calibrates itself in the beginning to run at some desired real time speed but then the VM running it has to be migrated to a host with faster (newer) CPUs. I don't have a real world examples out of top of my head but I remember some old DOS era games were impossible to play on newer CPUs because everything was happenning too fast. Maybe that's the case :-) -- Vitaly