Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1762972AbXERV5v (ORCPT ); Fri, 18 May 2007 17:57:51 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1755205AbXERV5p (ORCPT ); Fri, 18 May 2007 17:57:45 -0400 Received: from thunk.org ([69.25.196.29]:59867 "EHLO thunker.thunk.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755036AbXERV5o (ORCPT ); Fri, 18 May 2007 17:57:44 -0400 Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 17:57:31 -0400 From: Theodore Tso To: Martin Mokrejs Cc: Jesper Juhl , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ext3-users@redhat.com Subject: Re: 2.6.22-rc1 killed my ext3 filesystem cleanly unmounted Message-ID: <20070518215731.GB10655@thunk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Theodore Tso , Martin Mokrejs , Jesper Juhl , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ext3-users@redhat.com References: <20070518090604.GA10841@ribosome.natur.cuni.cz> <9a8748490705180720u3baf9785l910581a2a76a6eb@mail.gmail.com> <20070518143529.GB14611@ribosome.natur.cuni.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070518143529.GB14611@ribosome.natur.cuni.cz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: tytso@thunk.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on thunker.thunk.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1862 Lines: 40 On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 04:35:29PM +0200, Martin Mokrejs wrote: > > How do you know that the corruption was caused by 2.6.21-rc1 ? > > Isn't it possible that the corruption was created by an earlier > > kernel, but only detected when a forced fsck was run - which just > > happened to be while you were running 2.6.21-rc1 ... > > > > My point is that, as far as I can see, there's nothing tying > > 2.6.21-rc1 specifically to this corruption... or? > > You might be right, but I thought maybe more probably is the cause in kernel > as that is what I have changed recently. ;) Or maybe someone can at leats say > "No, no changes to be considered between 2.6.20.6 and 2.6.22-rc1.". ;) Well, given that your e2fsck transcript started with this: > /dev/hda3 has been mounted 38 times without being checked, check forced #1, This is why periodic checks are a good thing; it catches problems that could stay hidden and result in data loss sooner rather later. #2, It seems unlikely tha tthe problem is tied to 2.6.21-rc1. The filesystme corruption could have happened at any time in the last 38 mounts. It could be caused by hardware problems, or software problems; there really is no telling. #3, With respect to your use of gentoo's unstable e2fsprogs, it seems unlikely that the corruptions were caused by gentoo's e2fsprogs. The being said, Gentoo includes a number of development patches that I wouldn't necessarily feel comfortable putting into production, and indeed haven't been checked into SCM yet. So it makes me nervous, but I doubt it's related to your specific problem. Regards, - Ted - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/