Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1762596AbXEVIWN (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 May 2007 04:22:13 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756400AbXEVIWB (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 May 2007 04:22:01 -0400 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.169]:6833 "EHLO ug-out-1314.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755293AbXEVIWA (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 May 2007 04:22:00 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bi/J3+U+M9wukXcXALK3WyiHt9jhuBN4tEKD8VXikqh+4QTjWsvsLwyqnVHZ6GMd4FBkKPYPCpZ7Yb7E161GQcUQsDyTw8wwM9OD10LtGgfMfsFpMEJ3JgWB4G4GwPqC2KwWQHSALXPo9smwpsMGSDg+OzI01gKue4RZAWQ3bD8= Message-ID: <21d7e9970705220121v78fe4f1by6539136f6823977a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 18:21:57 +1000 From: "Dave Airlie" To: "Jon Smirl" Subject: Re: [RFC] enhancing the kernel's graphics subsystem Cc: "Alan Cox" , "Jeff Garzik" , "Jesse Barnes" , "Jesse Barnes" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Antonino A. Daplas" In-Reply-To: <9e4733910705211756g3b72795ucc4a8883ff587861@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200705171423.46748.jesse.barnes@intel.com> <9e4733910705210901v5996cacas640f211404c519c6@mail.gmail.com> <200705210914.22663.jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org> <200705210934.58559.jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org> <9e4733910705211005k761c976o1a6b270d87b49589@mail.gmail.com> <21d7e9970705211014j6eb59326u85f7347a3000f3d3@mail.gmail.com> <4652295E.7060305@garzik.org> <20070522013545.5c269641@the-village.bc.nu> <9e4733910705211745q40de7683xb6ede752b53538ed@mail.gmail.com> <9e4733910705211756g3b72795ucc4a8883ff587861@mail.gmail.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1126 Lines: 24 > What I don't want is a permanent root priv process hanging around in > the system. It simply isn't needed and I have prototyped a system that > runs without root so I know it can be done. With minor mods DRI can > run without the need for root, with more major mods the X server can > run without the need for root. Most of the mods to the X server are to > remove things like PCI bus probing, mode setting and VBIOS support. > But you always lacked a transition plan and never showed a decent API if memory serves, your methods disregarded back compat usually. also there is no need to port all drivers there never has been we need to just add config options and work with distros to upgrade to the newer bits.. As Jesse said this is an RFC we are not merging it in the morning however all your comments are hand waving so far we need technical problems with this API. Dave. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/