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[2620:137:e000::1:20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id ho13-20020a1709070e8d00b00718e7d37346si6675717ejc.978.2022.06.17.12.34.46; Fri, 17 Jun 2022 12:35:11 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::1:20; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@google.com header.s=20210112 header.b=qcLNckrw; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=REJECT sp=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=google.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S237770AbiFQTKU (ORCPT + 99 others); Fri, 17 Jun 2022 15:10:20 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:58906 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S232457AbiFQTKS (ORCPT ); Fri, 17 Jun 2022 15:10:18 -0400 Received: from mail-yw1-x112e.google.com (mail-yw1-x112e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::112e]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C26D5675F for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2022 12:10:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yw1-x112e.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-31772f8495fso50163217b3.4 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2022 12:10:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=yhHCwOK3viBqjIKhY76qpzkBW+ZqX0Wssj/behLDtnY=; b=qcLNckrwocnnxou961SWlQpVChEvmk+6xfzoQgpfw0CPt37VLC7G3KBsrHDqz2tYpB WbJ6a/qa38nYTDbhRwsbu+M8ziEfQ525pjqLiCgTGqsOtHfHT2tDwWZ/TrQO0Ii4z5cT NO+cqPwwllaYvuGZoyymAQwgNVLyO7XeXqhtRc5hhaakZbB0mJJnrvXl6exaJeY5SiUT vayFE380Uu+tM23KO/Zmbsri8fcClAH2A3Lxrl/fdb364fQH3jvRGTSKXXGXE9eJ8tKn 281ypcoOj0J1eBXLV6ztmKlw8pBPYtTUs+uTNweuTQIeFioR4RB45CEvGAkEoZ1u9fmU N0Qg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=yhHCwOK3viBqjIKhY76qpzkBW+ZqX0Wssj/behLDtnY=; b=zy+M/EU4KT0AfZyQW+o8lCg6Wv2HTwF90MX3OcCltM9WByOds4KcnJg/Ura0l0bqm8 3zg1stdfJTXnK6GbHURslZnQgiBkDyD4iCKHfBTXKaPFIfgUl7KuqN9BLsFUdWdd2h8z Co1A/yOTeyA0NWKX1qM3amMXUuY6jgXvl2Z8eg6fV5/5GFCYeXNDbjIJYFSr1+SUE9jq mZqG5GdR+T/9eun5Zk47+a1GZlDOD2w5DFNhNIJN5mjAL5qHKTbaLrpNQaDc8Eaqy1bZ i0T+somHKrSGUPlKDmA85PXau3prtpSt+7ueiDyo0eLonWZKJCaiCtlfFcJKjpps1pSb 01xw== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora8uQ5m5JEv6eaVVpcgfuzfKhgaxH+uRyOAl6QuB8fuyE1LBwtpD 5OsmSvcghKOLf0SZTV7aDssNtFi5tl3/2H/6dEyMWw== X-Received: by 2002:a0d:fac6:0:b0:317:5202:b8c1 with SMTP id k189-20020a0dfac6000000b003175202b8c1mr12831001ywf.467.1655493017074; Fri, 17 Jun 2022 12:10:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20220617091039.2257083-1-eric.dumazet@gmail.com> <2dd754f9-3a79-ed17-e423-6b411c3afb69@redhat.com> <2730b855-8f99-5a9e-707e-697d3bd9811d@redhat.com> <7499dd05-30d1-669c-66b4-5cb06452b476@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: From: Eric Dumazet Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2022 21:10:05 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH] locking/rwlocks: do not starve writers To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: Waiman Long , Shakeel Butt , Eric Dumazet , Linus Torvalds , linux-kernel , Ingo Molnar , Boqun Feng , Will Deacon , Roman Penyaev Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-17.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_MED, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF, ENV_AND_HDR_SPF_MATCH,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE,USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL,USER_IN_DEF_SPF_WL autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 9:04 PM Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 07:45:14PM +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote: > > > Were rwlocks always unfair, and we have been lucky ? > > Yes. So I wonder why we replaced eventpoll spinlock with an rwlock. Writing a repro is probably more difficult for eventpoll though. We definitely had production issues after commit a218cc491420