Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753766AbXEYAjb (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 May 2007 20:39:31 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750741AbXEYAjX (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 May 2007 20:39:23 -0400 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([207.189.120.13]:40014 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750709AbXEYAjX (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 May 2007 20:39:23 -0400 Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 17:37:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Linus Torvalds To: Pavel Machek cc: Romano Giannetti , Chris Wright , Chuck Ebbert , Linux Kernel Mailing List , stable@kernel.org, Justin Forbes , Zwane Mwaikambo , "Theodore Ts'o" , Randy Dunlap , Dave Jones , Chuck Wolber , Chris Wedgwood , Michael Krufky , akpm@linux-foundation.org, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, "Rafael J. Wysocki" Subject: Re: pcmcia resume 60 second hang. Re: [patch 00/69] -stable review In-Reply-To: <20070524231852.GG9604@elf.ucw.cz> Message-ID: References: <1179870110.16656.2.camel@localhost> <1180008394.15600.26.camel@localhost> <20070524200435.GA9604@elf.ucw.cz> <20070524220017.GC9604@elf.ucw.cz> <20070524221743.GD9604@elf.ucw.cz> <20070524231852.GG9604@elf.ucw.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 843 Lines: 26 On Fri, 25 May 2007, Pavel Machek wrote: > > 2) we need to preload firmware during _suspend_. I AM TELLING THAT TO > PEOPLE FOR FIVE YEARS NOW. And people aren't listening. Have you thought about _why_? The thing is, it should just work. Even without pre-loading. > Imageine we killed freezer. Also imagine Romano has IDE card his > PCMCIA slot. Kaboom, we solved nothing. Don't be silly. We solved it. The firmware has to be loadable from somewhere else, since otherwise his IDE card wouldn't have been accessible in the first place! So all your arguments are just bogus crap. Linus - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/