Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755188AbXEYEwJ (ORCPT ); Fri, 25 May 2007 00:52:09 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751512AbXEYEv5 (ORCPT ); Fri, 25 May 2007 00:51:57 -0400 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([207.189.120.13]:33844 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751463AbXEYEv4 (ORCPT ); Fri, 25 May 2007 00:51:56 -0400 Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 21:49:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Linus Torvalds To: Nigel Cunningham cc: Pavel Machek , Romano Giannetti , Chris Wright , Chuck Ebbert , Linux Kernel Mailing List , stable@kernel.org, Justin Forbes , Zwane Mwaikambo , "Theodore Ts'o" , Randy Dunlap , Dave Jones , Chuck Wolber , Chris Wedgwood , Michael Krufky , akpm@linux-foundation.org, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, "Rafael J. Wysocki" Subject: Re: pcmcia resume 60 second hang. Re: [patch 00/69] -stable review In-Reply-To: <1180067587.3997.136.camel@nigel.suspend2.net> Message-ID: References: <1179870110.16656.2.camel@localhost> <1180008394.15600.26.camel@localhost> <20070524200435.GA9604@elf.ucw.cz> <20070524220017.GC9604@elf.ucw.cz> <20070524221743.GD9604@elf.ucw.cz> <20070524231852.GG9604@elf.ucw.cz> <1180058123.3997.91.camel@nigel.suspend2.net> <1180059605.3997.100.camel@nigel.suspend2.net> <1180062040.3997.112.camel@nigel.suspend2.net> <1180067587.3997.136.camel@nigel.suspend2.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1122 Lines: 28 On Fri, 25 May 2007, Nigel Cunningham wrote: > > Does that mean you never ever power off your laptop (assuming you have > one), and the battery never runs out? Surely you must power it off > completely sometimes? So? The bootup isn't that much worse than a disk suspend/resume, and it's reliable. And actually, I don't use laptops much. I use mostly desktops, and STR works fine on at least some of them. In contrast, doing some suspend-to-disk thing would just be insane and idiotic. If I have to wait for half a minute and have a slow system even after that because my git trees aren't in the cache, I really might as well just shut them off. In contrast, STR means they are quiet and don't waste energy when I don't use them, but they're instantly available when I care. HUGE difference. I really think suspend-to-disk is just a total waste of my time. Linus - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/