Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1763578AbXEYRBu (ORCPT ); Fri, 25 May 2007 13:01:50 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752668AbXEYRBn (ORCPT ); Fri, 25 May 2007 13:01:43 -0400 Received: from outpipe-village-512-1.bc.nu ([81.2.110.250]:46763 "EHLO the-village.bc.nu" rhost-flags-OK-FAIL-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752176AbXEYRBl (ORCPT ); Fri, 25 May 2007 13:01:41 -0400 Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 18:03:04 +0100 From: Alan Cox To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Chris Newport , Ingo Molnar , Christoph Lameter , Michal Piotrowski , Andrew Morton , LKML , "Cherwin R. Nooitmeer" , linux-pcmcia@lists.infradead.org, Robert de Rooy , Alan Cox , Tejun Heo , sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, David Miller , Mikael Pettersson , linux1394-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, Stefan Richter , Kristian H?gsberg , linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Pavel Machek , Marcus Better , Andrey Borzenkov , linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, Greg Kroah-Hartman Subject: Re: [2/3] 2.6.22-rc2: known regressions v2 Message-ID: <20070525180304.2cc4dae0@the-village.bc.nu> In-Reply-To: References: <46558708.2040803@googlemail.com> <46559B54.80106@googlemail.com> <20070524193740.GA6787@elte.hu> <20070525101105.GA9268@elte.hu> <4656CE39.8050800@netunix.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.9.1 (GTK+ 2.10.8; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Organization: Red Hat UK Cyf., Amberley Place, 107-111 Peascod Street, Windsor, Berkshire, SL4 1TE, Y Deyrnas Gyfunol. Cofrestrwyd yng Nghymru a Lloegr o'r rhif cofrestru 3798903 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1031 Lines: 22 > Disk dumps etc are options at things like wall street. But look at the bug > reports, and ask yourself how many of them happen at Wall Street, and how > many of them would even be _relevant_ to somebody there? There is an additional factor - dumps contain data which variously is - copyright third parties, protected by privacy laws, just personally private, security sensitive (eg browser history) and so on. The only reasons you can get dumps back in the hands of vendors is because there are strong formal agreements controlling where they go and what is done with them. Diskdump (and even more so netdump) are useful in the hands of a developer crashing their own box just like kgdb, but not in the the normal and rational end user response of "its broken, hit reset" Alan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/