Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 18:32:10 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 18:31:57 -0500 Received: from neon-gw-l3.transmeta.com ([63.209.4.196]:56583 "EHLO neon-gw.transmeta.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 18:31:35 -0500 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: "H. Peter Anvin" Subject: Re: [patch] smarter atime updates Date: 30 Nov 2001 15:31:18 -0800 Organization: Transmeta Corporation, Santa Clara CA Message-ID: <9u94s6$er5$1@cesium.transmeta.com> In-Reply-To: <20011130145223.Q15936@lynx.no> <20011130143011.A20179@netnation.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Disclaimer: Not speaking for Transmeta in any way, shape, or form. Copyright: Copyright 2001 H. Peter Anvin - All Rights Reserved Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Followup to: <20011130143011.A20179@netnation.com> By author: Simon Kirby In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel > > I've always thought filesystems should mount with noatime,nodiratime by > default and only actually update atime if specifically mounted with > "atime", as it's so rarely used. Out of all of the servers here, none > actually use atime (every file system on _every_ server is mounted > noatime,nodiratime). It's such a waste and just sounds fundamentally > broken to issue a write because somebody read from a file. > > ...But there's probably some POSIX standard which would make such a > change illegal. Blah blah... > > (Not to say that atime isn't useful, but in most cases where it might be > useful, it is so easily broken by backup processes, etc., that it really > wants to be a different sort of mechanism.) > Edit /etc/fstab and be happy. I'm sorry, but you even know why your request is unacceptable. -hpa -- at work, in private! "Unix gives you enough rope to shoot yourself in the foot." http://www.zytor.com/~hpa/puzzle.txt - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/