Received: by 2002:a6b:fb09:0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id h9csp818811iog; Wed, 29 Jun 2022 10:50:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1umoH4g37r9Aq/PfI3+Pd3RjhTYoDjF1SbqM6WUIJLi3adf5GI7UGYpLA+FmMf1kUjdohKL X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a00:174f:b0:525:518e:71d6 with SMTP id j15-20020a056a00174f00b00525518e71d6mr10360376pfc.68.1656525026473; Wed, 29 Jun 2022 10:50:26 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1656525026; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=kgmE1o3X2w0I48/3DX4a6zrUE5xXknzFyKtNFRH92RpE2M0AzhuGsFpMQGpIpIk2Ga mhMdcbo+94Y25RqP2u2pYs+miOkgA4vElLv4wWNM/+j4j0d+hSFDX3w6Pmi5PjgVUE7C H7R8AX5PepLrCd79b2iuTUbPGyvMyhGgazIWWXixN4SoRoWpjV8BAzW5yr+3m8p1SHKn 4iemwCcKrNwJ0yWK+YeV7RKVxf6qMbzWN+VY4kKQkiukftmgcIiH+bSsntv1QEG4axkO ttujbQylShuk/khJ4dn8uluuTvuytsoFOsc9jTKFfe3+7QM/PaUt+9fn0AruAE9jsRn/ uh1g== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:user-agent:in-reply-to:content-disposition :mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date; bh=WPigXQxINynWLlx7T3UkY8XJKv0xfdKQsbf8/OhoG+c=; b=JNnNatCN7g6QUK7nINHC0FwR2sLWS+/SvkpoTSv2yFk1KNAFz0YZHaY8W4RynrGi62 JDG72RNKB21rwZ+wcz3qgursnyIVXRbbOhoBVdj4KdN5XKXqxS1N0q8YA0ftgSIjs5Vo KpDpZp4c4MPqk8cT9DDQUOo/3tr38kGmPkqCzmK2L+ddeR8BVi6kta0MS8p/z46KPzGV NCDTSbJ777VaoKV4AYwzVZzs9yoGXV5EaKK3vvTyu/EXfQSagPbb4XogZRoy+9gSO8B1 eRw8Ob37SI1XdV4gK2RMe1CbB0XN+gOxD/Lz21uWlCfOZDX2aTCDhWdf7BzWd/EgVIaM Tchg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from out1.vger.email (out1.vger.email. [2620:137:e000::1:20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id i31-20020a63585f000000b0040cd2567341si21658375pgm.354.2022.06.29.10.50.14; Wed, 29 Jun 2022 10:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::1:20; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229617AbiF2Rf6 (ORCPT + 99 others); Wed, 29 Jun 2022 13:35:58 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:44702 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S231195AbiF2Rfw (ORCPT ); Wed, 29 Jun 2022 13:35:52 -0400 Received: from verein.lst.de (verein.lst.de [213.95.11.211]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77F813B294; Wed, 29 Jun 2022 10:35:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by verein.lst.de (Postfix, from userid 2407) id 56BBA68AA6; Wed, 29 Jun 2022 19:35:45 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2022 19:35:45 +0200 From: Christoph Hellwig To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman , Christoph Hellwig , Arve =?iso-8859-1?B?SGr4bm5lduVn?= , Todd Kjos , Martijn Coenen , Joel Fernandes , Christian Brauner , Hridya Valsaraju , Suren Baghdasaryan , Theodore Ts'o , "David S. Miller" , Eric Dumazet , Jakub Kicinski , "Alex Xu (Hello71)" , Paolo Abeni , Rob Herring , "Paul E. McKenney" , Frederic Weisbecker , Neeraj Upadhyay , Josh Triplett , Steven Rostedt , Mathieu Desnoyers , Lai Jiangshan , Shuah Khan , LKML , WireGuard mailing list , Netdev , rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] remove CONFIG_ANDROID Message-ID: <20220629173545.GA26648@lst.de> References: <20220629161527.GA24978@lst.de> <20220629163007.GA25279@lst.de> <20220629164543.GA25672@lst.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_NONE,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 07:30:35PM +0200, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > Properly resolved by whom? It sounds like you're up for intentionally > allowing a userspace regression, and also volunteering other people's > time into fixing that regression? The way I understand the kernel > development process is that the person proposing a change is responsible > for not intentionally causing regressions, and if one is pointed out, a > v+1 of that patch is provided that doesn't cause the regression. If you think the code does not work when the system frequently suspends and resumes, then well it is broken already, as that can happen just as much on non-Android systems. So maybe we should just remove it if it is so broken that you fear about regressions on the 3 and a half Android systems in the world running an upstream kernel?