Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 19:56:49 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 19:56:39 -0500 Received: from neon-gw-l3.transmeta.com ([63.209.4.196]:11275 "EHLO neon-gw.transmeta.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 19:56:28 -0500 Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 16:50:34 -0800 (PST) From: Linus Torvalds To: Rik van Riel cc: Andrew Morton , Larry McVoy , Daniel Phillips , Henning Schmiedehausen , Jeff Garzik , Subject: Re: Coding style - a non-issue In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Rik van Riel wrote: > > I'm very interested too, though I'll have to agree with Larry > that Linux really isn't going anywhere in particular and seems > to be making progress through sheer luck. Hey, that's not a bug, that's a FEATURE! You know what the most complex piece of engineering known to man in the whole solar system is? Guess what - it's not Linux, it's not Solaris, and it's not your car. It's you. And me. And think about how you and me actually came about - not through any complex design. Right. "sheer luck". Well, sheer luck, AND: - free availability and _crosspollination_ through sharing of "source code", although biologists call it DNA. - a rather unforgiving user environment, that happily replaces bad versions of us with better working versions and thus culls the herd (biologists often call this "survival of the fittest") - massive undirected parallel development ("trial and error") I'm deadly serious: we humans have _never_ been able to replicate something more complicated than what we ourselves are, yet natural selection did it without even thinking. Don't underestimate the power of survival of the fittest. And don't EVER make the mistake that you can design something better than what you get from ruthless massively parallel trial-and-error with a feedback cycle. That's giving your intelligence _much_ too much credit. Quite frankly, Sun is doomed. And it has nothing to do with their engineering practices or their coding style. Linus - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/