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[2620:137:e000::1:20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id s20-20020aa78d54000000b00528c7664b3esi15152142pfe.321.2022.07.13.00.48.36; Wed, 13 Jul 2022 00:48:48 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::1:20; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=WoZDRQ+q; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S233044AbiGMH1D (ORCPT + 99 others); Wed, 13 Jul 2022 03:27:03 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:53628 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229968AbiGMH1C (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Jul 2022 03:27:02 -0400 Received: from mail-yb1-xb2c.google.com (mail-yb1-xb2c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2c]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC21AE2A17; Wed, 13 Jul 2022 00:27:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yb1-xb2c.google.com with SMTP id e69so17897724ybh.2; Wed, 13 Jul 2022 00:27:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=IaCuAnDuqRoO8/jU22pSfTKWD6iflCkcJh14rWsQ/1M=; b=WoZDRQ+q4tjCB5Ct3FiO0sSoF6JBXWibfr32sk3pnnhFL0UsxcjrBDxiPnXoofMeyM iQUHVpnRYtWrOpwNnBdndogbJvjd6dX2YoV9W+f9cWgVY5dEAw8Izu2ZQIMLkeGMF23t w5uBm9CjTLC+tIoF8eO4pLfOPAxXk8dWSWMB9y7HUNC4rRDR/1d5f9JvG15NvFCLxfqP HaJVHLVBWQ8rMEkrXabHa6KZm2qx5aA2qJMmnk9GJetQ/v3qfwH6Zga6xkQgNwtcEi4r 8k5I5dOZE2GSKp7rOqEUqHtPg06L49BvmoR71i+6sE3iAMHHZinocvvyUH8sJDi0vIrX tFJQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=IaCuAnDuqRoO8/jU22pSfTKWD6iflCkcJh14rWsQ/1M=; b=3YHURmshsnDHOBSqgmf/Jz4+6bsMHZi0+6YFOCiB+EVZEX3Q7b+4y4y+licy+43G4C yADW0XXzniCkSmb8Bsw4TUwyZnY5ONtAjN69THGKE+KXqmvCZbjayn7admSOMT6ztOVd k5OX5oLvP9Inkxk5ub56FW/u2sYDZzb5ygbz+N7d7Zu4Vf+6F9kXSVOmrhaG4S6rEaMQ rRnYkF+8WLXmwGMwm1xZZ+iODdZizEw708Txa4woP7xe6VXgjZ7FeaPK3CNoImHFYb09 CwDp5/bcSC3WUCkXxZc62YiLjpfc52ZOLAxYagGp8J7+2qQ0Z0t/2W00zoTw8vuRG6Ed 5WhQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora8Zq6Urmh/6FpeGuHTjaPIaUJLd8gPDQtESJ8+U0wbEpMlSAE1S AO7jiCpKhXGJYyDQspxnHTESmh7T7hlnqY4aQWU= X-Received: by 2002:a25:1457:0:b0:66e:cb5a:5dae with SMTP id 84-20020a251457000000b0066ecb5a5daemr2193434ybu.27.1657697220942; Wed, 13 Jul 2022 00:27:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Lukas Bulwahn Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2022 09:26:50 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Update "If something goes wrong" in Documentation/admin-guide/README.rst To: Thorsten Leemhuis , Jonathan Corbet , "open list:DOCUMENTATION" Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Dear Thorsten, dear Jonathan, During some other unrelated clean-up work, I stumbled upon the section 'If something goes wrong' in Documentation/admin-guide/README.rst (https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/README.html). README.rst is---as it seems---the intended first summary page of the documentation for any user of the kernel (the kernel's release notes document). The section 'If something goes wrong' describes what to do when encountering a bug and how to report it. The second sentence in that section is especially historic and probably just discouraging for most bug reporters ( ..."the second best thing is to mail them to me (torvalds@linux-foundation.org)"...). Some random user (potentially even unknown to the community) sending an email to Linus is most probably the last best thing to do and is most likely just ignored, right? Probably this section in README.rst needs a rewrite (summarizing Thorsten's reporting-issues.rst, or just copying the summary from there) and should then refer to reporting-issues.rst for more details. Thorsten, do you have time to prepare a change to that document that gives a short summary on how to report potential issues and regressions? Otherwise, I will happily put that on my todo list and probably can suggest some RFC patch in a week or two. Best regards, Lukas