Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1760628AbXFBAhr (ORCPT ); Fri, 1 Jun 2007 20:37:47 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754246AbXFBAhk (ORCPT ); Fri, 1 Jun 2007 20:37:40 -0400 Received: from seahorse.shentel.net ([204.111.1.244]:52247 "EHLO seahorse.shentel.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753891AbXFBAhj (ORCPT ); Fri, 1 Jun 2007 20:37:39 -0400 Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 20:37:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "John Anthony Kazos Jr." To: Krzysztof Halasa cc: "H. Peter Anvin" , Scott Preece , Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [patch 1/1] document Acked-by: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <200706010209.l51299kN000531@shell0.pdx.osdl.net> <28278.1180675923@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <465FB862.207@zytor.com> <7b69d1470706011237j50f29e4ch73f86acdc294fecd@mail.gmail.com> <46609AEC.4070603@zytor.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1956 Lines: 38 > > I think the comment had to do with the concept that ACK/NAK implies > > authority. If you're not the maintainer, it's rude to imply that you > > are. Obvious, test reports (good or bad!) are always welcome. > > Well, I understand a test is a different thing, an experiment to > see if the patch works or not, while ack/etc. is just opinion > of someone who reads the patch without actually using it. > > I think ack/etc doesn't, in any way, imply being the maintainer, > though it imply that the "acker" has actually read the code, > understands it, and believes it's correct (or not, and why). > > If we want to differentiate between "authoritative" and > "non-authoritative" opinions (and the name and email address > aren't enough) then I think we need to state that explicite > (perhaps something like "Acked-by: FIRST M. LAST , XXX > subsystem maintainer" would suffice). "Acked-by:" does not mean "I like this" but rather "I approve of this". Someone who is not a maintainer is encouraged to speak of like and dislike, in great detail, but has no position at all to approve or disapprove of it going in. If I put "Acked-by: John..." on a patch of any kind, even trivial, it would look incredibly stupid, because I'm just some guy messing around with the kernel. A tactful response to me doing that from any actual kernel bigwig would be, "I appreciate your enthusiasm, but you are not part of the kernel patch flow." Similarly, a tactful response to me NACKing a patch would be, "I appreciate your concern, but you are in no position to remove a patch from the stream. Your comments will be considered and implemented or countered by an actual maintainer." This is appropriate. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/