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Miller" , Paolo Abeni , Ioana Ciornei , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Eric Dumazet , Andrew Lunn , Alexandre Belloni , Benjamin Herrenschmidt , Claudiu Manoil , Florian Fainelli , Frank Rowand , Krzysztof Kozlowski , Li Yang , Michael Ellerman , Paul Mackerras , Rob Herring , Saravana Kannan , Shawn Guo , UNGLinuxDriver@microchip.com, Vivien Didelot , Vladimir Oltean , devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH net-next 0/9] net: pcs: Add support for devices probed in the "usual" manner Message-ID: <20220719153811.izue2q7qff7fjyru@skbuf> References: <20220711160519.741990-1-sean.anderson@seco.com> <20220719152539.i43kdp7nolbp2vnp@skbuf> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 11:28:42AM -0400, Sean Anderson wrote: > Hi Vladimir, > > On 7/19/22 11:25 AM, Vladimir Oltean wrote: > > Hi Sean, > > > > On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 12:05:10PM -0400, Sean Anderson wrote: > >> For a long time, PCSs have been tightly coupled with their MACs. For > >> this reason, the MAC creates the "phy" or mdio device, and then passes > >> it to the PCS to initialize. This has a few disadvantages: > >> > >> - Each MAC must re-implement the same steps to look up/create a PCS > >> - The PCS cannot use functions tied to device lifetime, such as devm_*. > >> - Generally, the PCS does not have easy access to its device tree node > >> > >> I'm not sure if these are terribly large disadvantages. In fact, I'm not > >> sure if this series provides any benefit which could not be achieved > >> with judicious use of helper functions. In any case, here it is. > >> > >> NB: Several (later) patches in this series should not be applied. See > >> the notes in each commit for details on when they can be applied. > > > > Sorry to burst your bubble, but the networking drivers on NXP LS1028A > > (device tree at arch/arm64/boot/dts/freescale/fsl-ls1028a.dtsi, drivers > > at drivers/net/ethernet/freescale/enetc/ and drivers/net/dsa/ocelot/) > > do not use the Lynx PCS through a pcs-handle, because the Lynx PCS in > > fact has no backing OF node there, nor do the internal MDIO buses of the > > ENETC and of the switch. > > > > It seems that I need to point this out explicitly: you need to provide > > at least a working migration path to your PCS driver model. Currently > > there isn't one, and as a result, networking is broken on the LS1028A > > with this patch set. > > > > Please refer to patches 4, 5, and 6. I don't understand, could you be more clear? Are you saying that I shouldn't have applied patch 9 while testing? When would be a good moment to apply patch 9?