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From:   Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>
Date:   Mon, 25 Jul 2022 22:41:31 +0200
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] gpio: gpio-74x164: add support for CDx4HC4094
To:     Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
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        Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@bgdev.pl>,
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On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 3:54 PM Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 11:32 AM Andy Shevchenko
> <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 11:32 AM Marcus Folkesson
> > <marcus.folkesson@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > 74hc4094 and 75hc4094 works similar to 74x164 but has an additional
> > > storage latch associated with each stage for strobing data from the
> > > serial input to parallell buffer tri-state output.
> >
> > parallel
> >
> > > Add support for an optional strobe pin.
> >
> > Sorry for my absence of understanding, but why?
> > SPI has MOSI, CLK, CS, where the last one is exactly for that. No?
>
> Forgive me if I misunderstand, but if you use CS that
> way, the way that the SPI framework works is to assert
> CS then transfer a few chunks over SPI (MOSI/CLK)
> then de-assert CS.
>
> If CS is used for strobe, it is constantly asserted
> during transfer and the sequence will be latched
> out immediately as you write the SPI transfers and
> the data is clocked through the register, making the
> whole train of zeroes and ones flash across the
> output pins before they stabilize after the SPI
> transfer is finished.
>
> If you first do the SPI transfer, then strobe after
> finished, this will not happen.
>
> Then it should be a separate pin, so this doesn't
> happen, right?
>
> Yours,
> Linus Walleij


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With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko