Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::1:20;
Date:   Tue, 26 Jul 2022 15:11:19 +0200
From:   Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To:     John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
Cc:     Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
        linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
        Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
        Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] printk: Skip console drivers on PREEMPT_RT.
Message-ID: <Yt/n9yahzBkgvqhv@alley>
References: <Ytgu17hATM8iqdGC@linutronix.de>
 <87ilnrn06u.fsf@jogness.linutronix.de>
 <Ytj3PisFjOfS9L0Y@linutronix.de>
 <YtqakGJAQzw/IPul@alley>
 <YtrYdXWGb0NQLKNA@linutronix.de>
 <Yt6MzEEFfpyTBIIj@alley>
 <Yt6gxxRxDZ/wFHrA@linutronix.de>
 <Yt6nlaSrfZ+fn80x@alley>
 <Yt6zwP9xSdUhsoQ9@linutronix.de>
 <871qu8i9vw.fsf@jogness.linutronix.de>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
In-Reply-To: <871qu8i9vw.fsf@jogness.linutronix.de>
Precedence: bulk

On Tue 2022-07-26 10:03:39, John Ogness wrote:
> On 2022-07-25, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de> wrote:
> > printk might be invoked in a context with disabled interrupts and or
> > preemption and additionally disables interrupts before it invokes the
> > console drivers. This behaviour is not desired on PREEMPT_RT:
> > - The console driver are using spinlock_t based locking which become sleeping
> >   locks on PREEMPT_RT and must not be acquired with disabled interrupts (or
> >   preemption).
> >
> > - The locks within the console drivers must remain sleeping locks and they must
> >   not disable interrupts. Printing (and polling for its completion) at 115200
> >   baud on an UART takes too long for PREEMPT_RT in general and so raises the
> >   latency of the IRQ-off time of the system beyond acceptable levels.
> >
> > Skip printing to the console as temporary workaround until the printing threads
> > and atomic consoles have been introduced or another solution which is
> > compatible with the PREEMPT_RT approach.
> > With this change, the user will not see any kernel message printed to the
> > console but can retrieve the printk buffer from userland (via the dmesg
> > command). This allows enable PREEMPT_RT as a whole without disabling printk and
> > loosing all kernel output.
> 
> Note that "the dmesg command" is not the only userspace tool to access
> the kernel logs. Logging daemons (using /proc/kmsg or /dev/kmsg) also
> have full access.

I have updated the message when comitting, see
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/printk/linux.git/commit/?h=rework/kthreads&id=c01c1c784a02aaa216524977b294b8834d0ee907


> > Disable console printing on PREEMPT_RT.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
> 
> Reviewed-by: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>

JFYI, the patch has been committed into printk/linux.git, branch
rework/kthreads. I am going to add it into the pull request for 5.20.

Best Regards,
Petr