Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932206AbXFEOSU (ORCPT ); Tue, 5 Jun 2007 10:18:20 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1764140AbXFEOSG (ORCPT ); Tue, 5 Jun 2007 10:18:06 -0400 Received: from ns1.suse.de ([195.135.220.2]:34472 "EHLO mx1.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1764233AbXFEOSF (ORCPT ); Tue, 5 Jun 2007 10:18:05 -0400 Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 16:17:53 +0200 Message-ID: From: Takashi Iwai To: Jan Engelhardt Cc: Andrew Morton , Uwe Bugla , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jaroslav Kysela , Mauro Carvalho Chehab , Jens Axboe Subject: Re: BUG in 2.6.22-rc2-mm1: Parts of Alsa sound architecture broken In-Reply-To: References: <20070524200052.234330@gmx.net> <20070524130921.8dbd3777.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20070525102806.77ee9c0c.akpm@linux-foundation.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.12.0 (Your Wildest Dreams) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.7 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Sanj=F2?=) APEL/10.6 MULE XEmacs/21.5 (beta27) (fiddleheads) (+CVS-20060704) (i386-suse-linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2067 Lines: 47 At Tue, 5 Jun 2007 15:25:07 +0200 (MEST), Jan Engelhardt wrote: > > > >> > >Well, I find the change of CONFIG_SND to menuconfig is fine, too. > >> > >But CONFIG_SND_PCI_DRIVERS and others don't make much sense to me. > >> > >How is it useful at all? > >> > > >> > Hah, I just tell you some of my own experience. > >> > In summer 2003, I bought the last new machine, and it got these > >> > shiny new ports they like to call USB. :) > >> > I did not have much use for it, but I left it on - you never know > >> > what standard next is the big win of the decade. And actually, > >> > it did not took long (well, summer 2005) to get my first USB device. > >> > Still, I am hell as sure I do not have USB-based sound devices > >> > anytime soon, so it would be cool to deactivate the whole usbsound > >> > menu at once. I think I said that in the patch description, did not I? > >> > >> But it's not cool to add an extra config item just for that, too. > >> And, the structure of menuconfig-if-endif is uglier than menu-endmenu. > >> That's why I feel a bit uneasy, although all these are a matter of > >> taste... > > > >Forgot to mention about another annoying drawback. Because of the new > >CONFIG_SND_*_DRIVERS, you'll have to re-select all belonging > >CONFIG_SND_*, even via config oldconfig. Putting the dependency on > >the top seems to reset the values defined in the old .config. > > Well, *I* (previously) submitted patches with "default y", but Jens > Axboe [http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/5/12/164] disagreed heavily enough to > stop that practice. Hm, I guess Jens didn't know about this side-effect. When I don't set "default y", I'll be asked for each belonging item even though I chose "y" manually for the top config (CONFIG_*_DRIVERS). Strangely, setting "default y" has no this effect... Takashi - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/