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Biederman" Cc: "Serge E. Hallyn" , Miklos Szeredi , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Oleg Nesterov Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: __fatal_signal_pending() should also check PF_EXITING Message-ID: References: <20220713175305.1327649-1-tycho@tycho.pizza> <20220720150328.GA30749@mail.hallyn.com> <20220721015459.GA4297@mail.hallyn.com> <871qu6bjp3.fsf@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <871qu6bjp3.fsf@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 11:32:08AM -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > Tycho Andersen writes: > > > Hi all, > > > > On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 08:54:59PM -0500, Serge E. Hallyn wrote: > >> Oh - I didn't either - checking the sigkill in shared signals *seems* > >> legit if they can be put there - but since you posted the new patch I > >> assumed his reasoning was clear to you. I know Eric's busy, cc:ing Oleg > >> for his interpretation too. > > > > Any thoughts on this? > > Having __fatal_signal_pending check SIGKILL in shared signals is > completely and utterly wrong. > > What __fatal_signal_pending reports is if a signal has gone through > short cirucuit delivery after determining that the delivery of the > signal will terminate the process. This short-circuiting you're talking about happens in __send_signal()? The problem here is that __send_signal() will add things to the shared queue: pending = (type != PIDTYPE_PID) ? &t->signal->shared_pending : &t->pending; and indeed we add it to the shared set because of the way zap_pid_ns_processes() calls it: roup_send_sig_info(SIGKILL, SEND_SIG_PRIV, task, PIDTYPE_MAX); > Using "sigismember(&tsk->pending.signal, SIGKILL)" to report that a > fatal signal has experienced short circuit delivery is a bit of an > abuse, but essentially harmless as tkill of SIGKILL to a thread will > result in every thread in the process experiencing short circuit > delivery of the fatal SIGKILL. So a pending SIGKILL can't really mean > anything else. This is the part I don't follow. If it's ok to send a signal to this set, why is it not ok to also look there (other than that it was a slight hack in the first place)? Maybe it will short circuit more threads, but that seems ok. > After having looked at the code a little more I can unfortunately also > say that testing PF_EXITING in __fatal_signal_pending will cause > kernel_wait4 in zap_pid_ns_processes to not sleep, and instead to return > 0. Which will cause zap_pid_ns_processes to busy wait. That seems very > unfortunate. > > I hadn't realized it at the time I wrote zap_pid_ns_processes but I > think anything called from do_exit that cares about signal pending state > is pretty much broken and needs to be fixed. > So the question is how do we fix the problem in fuse that shows up > during a pid namespace exit without having interruptible sleeps we need > to wake up? > > What are the code paths that experience the problem? [<0>] request_wait_answer+0x282/0x710 [fuse] [<0>] fuse_simple_request+0x502/0xc10 [fuse] [<0>] fuse_flush+0x431/0x630 [fuse] [<0>] filp_close+0x96/0x120 [<0>] put_files_struct+0x15c/0x2c0 [<0>] do_exit+0xa00/0x2450 [<0>] do_group_exit+0xb2/0x2a0 [<0>] get_signal+0x1eed/0x2090 [<0>] arch_do_signal_or_restart+0x89/0x1bc0 [<0>] exit_to_user_mode_prepare+0x11d/0x1b0 [<0>] syscall_exit_to_user_mode+0x19/0x50 [<0>] do_syscall_64+0x50/0x90 [<0>] entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe+0x46/0xb0 is the full call stack, I have a reproducer here (make check will run it): https://github.com/tych0/kernel-utils/tree/master/fuse2 In addition to fuse, it looks like nfs_file_flush() eventually ends up in __fatal_signal_pending(), and probably a few others that want to synchronize with something outside the local kernel. > Will refactoring zap_pid_ns_processes as I have proposed so that it does > not use kernel_wait4 help sort this out? AKA make it work something > like thread group leader of a process and not allow wait to reap the > init process of a pid namespace until all of the processes in a pid > namespaces have been gone. Not that I see the problem in using > kernel_wait4 it looks like zap_pid_ns_processes needs to stop calling > kernel_wait4 regardless of the fuse problem. I can look at this, but I really don't think it will help: in this brave new world, what wakes up tasks stuck like the above? They're still looking at the wrong signal set. Tycho