Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 11:36:38 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 11:36:35 -0500 Received: from [195.63.194.11] ([195.63.194.11]:20492 "EHLO mail.stock-world.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 11:36:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3C0A5612.12E9007C@evision-ventures.com> Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 17:25:54 +0100 From: Martin Dalecki Reply-To: dalecki@evision.ag X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.7-10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rik van Riel CC: Linus Torvalds , Andrew Morton , Larry McVoy , Daniel Phillips , Henning Schmiedehausen , Jeff Garzik , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Coding style - a non-issue In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Rik van Riel wrote: > > On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > And don't EVER make the mistake that you can design something better than > > what you get from ruthless massively parallel trial-and-error with a > > feedback cycle. That's giving your intelligence _much_ too much credit. > > So, are we going to take out the appendix in 2.5 or will > we continue hoping our kernel doesn't catch an illness > without actually doing anything preventive ? > > Biological selection does nothing except removing the weak > ones, it cannot automatically create systems which work well. > > In short, I believe the biological selection is just that, > selection. The creation of stuff will need some direction. > > regards, One thing Linus doesn't realize is that the most successfull results of the biological selection are not the high mamals but simle archaic bacterias. This is the point where his analogy breaks badly. One one thing he simple appears to have forgotten: Operating systems have a *purpose*. Therefore the stuff one wan't to do with a system is what is driving it's true developement - this is most pertinent in the developement of a driver - one does it to use some kind of hardware it's that simple. However I agree with him fully that most of the so called software engineering methods do not have much in common with the reality out there and are basically a self exercise. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/