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[209.85.128.53]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b10-20020a1709063caa00b0072eddcc807fsm924637ejh.155.2022.08.03.16.52.48 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 03 Aug 2022 16:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wm1-f53.google.com with SMTP id n20-20020a05600c3b9400b003a4f2261a7eso1568526wms.2 for ; Wed, 03 Aug 2022 16:52:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:2d07:b0:3a3:585:5d96 with SMTP id x7-20020a05600c2d0700b003a305855d96mr4356909wmf.38.1659570768369; Wed, 03 Aug 2022 16:52:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20220803101438.24327-1-pabeni@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <20220803101438.24327-1-pabeni@redhat.com> From: Linus Torvalds Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2022 16:52:32 -0700 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Networking for 6.0 To: Paolo Abeni , Vlad Buslov , Oz Shlomo , Pablo Neira Ayuso Cc: kuba@kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 3:15 AM Paolo Abeni wrote: > > git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/netdev/net-next.git tags/net-next-6.0 Hmm. Another thing I note about this. It adds a new NF_FLOW_TABLE_PROCFS option, and that one has two problems: - it is 'default y'. Why? - it has 'depends on PROC_FS' etc, but guess what it does *not* depend on? NF_FLOW_TABLE itself. So not only does this new code try to enable itself by default, which is a no-no. We do "default y" if it's an old feature that got split out as a config option, or if it's something that everybody *really* should have, but I don't see that being the case here. But it also asks the user that question even when the user doesn't even have NF_FLOW_TABLE at all. Which seems entirely crazy. Am I missing something? Because it looks *completely* broken. I've said this before, and I'll say this again: our kernel config is hard on users as-is, and we really shouldn't make it worse by making it ask invalid questions or have invalid defaults. Linus