Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 13:55:09 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 13:55:02 -0500 Received: from mail3.aracnet.com ([216.99.193.38]:45065 "EHLO mail3.aracnet.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 13:54:54 -0500 From: "M. Edward Borasky" To: "Alan Cox" , Subject: RE: Linux/Pro [was Re: Coding style - a non-issue] Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 10:54:41 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > -----Original Message----- > From: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org > [mailto:linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org]On Behalf Of Alan Cox > Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 2:06 AM > To: Andrew Morton > Cc: Davide Libenzi; Larry McVoy; Daniel Phillips; Henning > Schmiedehausen; Jeff Garzik; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > Subject: Re: Linux/Pro [was Re: Coding style - a non-issue] > Another thing for 2.5 is going to be to weed out the unused and > unmaintained > drivers, and either someone fixes them or they go down the comsic > toilet and > we pull the flush handle before 2.6 comes out. > > Thankfully the scsi layer breakage is going to help no end in the area of > clockwork 8 bit scsi controllers, which is major culprit number > 1. number 2 > is probably the audio which is hopefully going to go away with ALSA based > code. I am *completely* underwhelmed by ALSA, *especially* in the areas of usability and documentation! I have an M-Audio Delta 66 sound card and I was unable to get ALSA to work with it. At the time I attempted this, I did not have the free time to do c-code-level integration work; I needed something that was plug-and-play with usable documentation. I ended up buying the closed-source OSS/Linux driver, which at least installs and boots. Their documentation isn't much better, and I finally was forced to dual-boot Windows 2000 to get a usable audio tool set for this device. My point here is that just because a composer is *capable* of doing integration work and building or repairing tools (and I am) does *not* mean he (or she :-) has either the time or the willingness to do so (and I don't). -- Take Your Trading to the Next Level! M. Edward Borasky, Meta-Trading Coach znmeb@borasky-research.net http://www.meta-trading-coach.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/meta-trading-coach - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/