Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S938227AbXFHHV4 (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 Jun 2007 03:21:56 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S936925AbXFHHR1 (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 Jun 2007 03:17:27 -0400 Received: from mtagate5.de.ibm.com ([195.212.29.154]:26864 "EHLO mtagate5.de.ibm.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S937882AbXFHHRY (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 Jun 2007 03:17:24 -0400 Message-ID: <4669027E.3070406@de.ibm.com> Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 09:17:18 +0200 From: Carsten Otte Reply-To: carsteno@de.ibm.com Organization: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?IBM_Deutschland_Entwicklung_GmbH=2CVor?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?sitzender_des_Aufsichtsrats=3A_Johann_Weihen=2CGe?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?sch=E4ftsf=FChrung=3A_Herbert_Kircher=2CSitz_der_?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gesellschaft=3A_B=F6blingen=2CRegistergericht=3A_Amts?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?gericht_Stuttgart=2C_HRB_243294?= User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070601) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christoph Hellwig , carsteno@de.ibm.com, Jared Hulbert , Nick Piggin , Andrew Morton , richard.griffiths@windriver.com, Richard Griffiths , Linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 2.6.21] cramfs: add cramfs Linear XIP References: <4653F264.1030807@de.ibm.com> <465BB5BA.3050900@yahoo.com.au> <6934efce0706011748p46cf7995vdca0b9cc3f0b06a3@mail.gmail.com> <46612D6F.6000002@yahoo.com.au> <46641472.3080802@de.ibm.com> <6934efce0706060413y6e74512s19d5f468106d4b85@mail.gmail.com> <20070606113351.GA11701@infradead.org> <4666DD88.5030708@de.ibm.com> <20070606162305.GA20600@infradead.org> <46683B6A.6030306@de.ibm.com> <20070607193844.GB17144@infradead.org> In-Reply-To: <20070607193844.GB17144@infradead.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1680 Lines: 36 Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 07:07:54PM +0200, Carsten Otte wrote: >> I've had a few beer long discussion with Joern Engel and David >> Woodhouse on this one. To cut a long discussion short: the current XIP >> infrastructure is not sufficient to be used on top of mtd. We'd need >> some extenstions: >> - on get_xip_page() we'd need to state if we want the reference >> read-only or read+write >> - we need a put_xip_page() to return references >> - and finally we need a callback for the referece, so that the mtd >> driver can ask to get its reference back (in order to unmap from >> userland when erasing a block) > > And we'll need that even when using cramfs. There's not way we'd > merge a hack where the user has to specify a physical address on > the mount command line. Nay, the proposed solution is read only. From what I understood of the discussion, it does'nt need that. The entire flash memory can be read at the same time. Things start to get interresting when you want to write, then you need to care about erase blocks and such. >> While I fully agree, that a flash filesystem using xip would be very >> desireable, the proposed cramfs extension is a totaly different beast >> that has its own value to me: the ability to select per file whether >> xip or compression is more efficient. > > You'd of course want all that for a full flash filesystem aswell. True. so long, Carsten - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/