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Date:   Mon, 15 Aug 2022 10:15:49 +0300
From:   Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To:     Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>
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Subject: Re: Missing MIPI IPU6 camera driver for Intel Alder Lake laptops
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On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 04:07:32PM +0900, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> On (22/08/15 09:02), Greg KH wrote:
> [..]
> > > We haven't sent out KCAM for upstream review yet. It's open sourced,
> > > as of this moment [1], but we still need some time and wanted to convert
> > > one of the previous generations of IPU drivers (IPU3) to KCAM first to
> > > see if everything is working as we wanted it to.
> > 
> > That didn't answer my question on when you were planning to actually
> > submit this :)
> 
> Definitely not today. Someday, for sure :)
> 
> I don't want to promise any timelines. But we are certainly not
> talking "weeks", we are talking "months". Several months is a
> realistic timeline.

If I were to bet, I'd say no less than a year :-) And even then, as
stated separately, you'll have to convince the upstream community that
the API is suitable. It would be best to work with upstream today on a
proposal that please all parties, and not wait a year for a full
implementation to be ready, submitted, and rejected.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart