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Date:   Mon, 15 Aug 2022 09:59:50 +0200
From:   Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To:     Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>
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Subject: Re: Missing MIPI IPU6 camera driver for Intel Alder Lake laptops
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On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 04:24:19PM +0900, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> On (22/08/15 09:14), Greg KH wrote:
> > > Definitely not today. Someday, for sure :)
> > > 
> > > I don't want to promise any timelines. But we are certainly not
> > > talking "weeks", we are talking "months". Several months is a
> > > realistic timeline.
> > 
> > Ok, so getting this merged is a good year out at the best, realisticly 2
> > years given that once you submit the first version for review, the real
> > work will start happening.
> 
> Well, nothing is really set in stone here. We may revisit our strategy,
> say turn it upside down, and hit upstream mailing list as soon as possible
> instead.

I would recommend this, as you all have been talking about this for a
very long time now with no actual code submissions anywhere (which is
what actually matters).  Waiting even longer feels like you are just
delaying the real work that has to be done, and it prevents hardware
that people have now from ever being supported in the device's lifetime.

But hey, what do I know about getting code upstream :)

good luck!

greg k-h