Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758424AbXFJEEq (ORCPT ); Sun, 10 Jun 2007 00:04:46 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1755090AbXFJEEj (ORCPT ); Sun, 10 Jun 2007 00:04:39 -0400 Received: from smtp2.linux-foundation.org ([207.189.120.14]:35740 "EHLO smtp2.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754200AbXFJEEj (ORCPT ); Sun, 10 Jun 2007 00:04:39 -0400 Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 21:03:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Linus Torvalds To: Al Viro cc: Kyle Moffett , Ulrich Drepper , Davide Libenzi , Alan Cox , Theodore Tso , Eric Dumazet , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Andrew Morton , Ingo Molnar Subject: Re: [patch 7/8] fdmap v2 - implement sys_socket2 In-Reply-To: <20070610040014.GD21478@ftp.linux.org.uk> Message-ID: References: <20070609151521.GD4095@ftp.linux.org.uk> <466AD4BA.80407@redhat.com> <20070609165454.GE4095@ftp.linux.org.uk> <466ADEAB.7080202@redhat.com> <20070609172429.GF4095@ftp.linux.org.uk> <2E51520E-EC73-457F-809A-4749ED9A3C97@mac.com> <20070609200645.GG4095@ftp.linux.org.uk> <20070610031922.GC21478@ftp.linux.org.uk> <20070610040014.GD21478@ftp.linux.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 865 Lines: 24 On Sun, 10 Jun 2007, Al Viro wrote: > On Sat, Jun 09, 2007 at 08:48:39PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > Agreed. That was actually part of the reason why I thought clone() was > > much better than the pthreads interface. > > > > That said, the Linux !CLONE_FILES does have downsides: > > > > - it is potentially much slower to do than sharing everything (if you > > have lots of file descriptors, incrementing the refcounts etc is > > actually a real overhead) > > Huh? We _skip_ the overhead when descriptor table is not shared. Not for clone()/exit(), ie the actual _creation_ of the thread. Linus - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/