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Wed, 17 Aug 2022 14:29:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.7.0-alpha0-841-g7899e99a45-fm-20220811.002-g7899e99a Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <5c7ac2ab-942f-4ee7-8a9c-39948a40681c@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20220815224011.GA9821@breakpoint.cc> References: <871qth87r1.fsf@toke.dk> <20220815224011.GA9821@breakpoint.cc> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2022 12:28:55 -0600 From: "Daniel Xu" To: "Florian Westphal" , =?UTF-8?Q?Toke_H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= Cc: "bpf@vger.kernel.org" , "Alexei Starovoitov" , "Daniel Borkmann" , "Andrii Nakryiko" , "Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi" , pablo@netfilter.org, netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 2/3] bpf: Add support for writing to nf_conn:mark Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD, PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi Florian, On Mon, Aug 15, 2022, at 4:40 PM, Florian Westphal wrote: > Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen wrote: >> > Support direct writes to nf_conn:mark from TC and XDP prog types. T= his >> > is useful when applications want to store per-connection metadata. = This >> > is also particularly useful for applications that run both bpf and >> > iptables/nftables because the latter can trivially access this meta= data. >> > >> > One example use case would be if a bpf prog is responsible for adva= nced >> > packet classification and iptables/nftables is later used for routi= ng >> > due to pre-existing/legacy code. >> > >> > Signed-off-by: Daniel Xu >>=20 >> Didn't we agree the last time around that all field access should be >> using helper kfuncs instead of allowing direct writes to struct nf_co= nn? > > I don't see why ct->mark needs special handling. > > It might be possible we need to change accesses on nf/tc side to use > READ/WRITE_ONCE though. I reviewed some of the LKMM literature and I would concur that READ/WRITE_ONCE() is necessary. Especially after this patchset. However, it's unclear to me if this is a latent issue. IOW: is reading ct->mark protected by a lock? I only briefly looked but it doesn't seem like it. I'll do some more digging. In the meantime, I'll send out a v2 on this patchset and I'll plan on sending out a followup patchset for adding READ/WRITE_ONCE() to ct->mark accesses. Thanks, Daniel