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[2620:137:e000::1:20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id il13-20020a17090b164d00b001f2c335155dsi4050532pjb.39.2022.08.18.00.56.18; Thu, 18 Aug 2022 00:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::1:20; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=QUARANTINE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=huawei.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S243912AbiHRHwK (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 18 Aug 2022 03:52:10 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:39044 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S243919AbiHRHwH (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 Aug 2022 03:52:07 -0400 Received: from szxga01-in.huawei.com (szxga01-in.huawei.com [45.249.212.187]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B011CAF0CA for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2022 00:52:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from canpemm500002.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.30.72.57]) by szxga01-in.huawei.com (SkyGuard) with ESMTP id 4M7cT50MGQzkWPd; Thu, 18 Aug 2022 15:48:41 +0800 (CST) Received: from [10.174.177.76] (10.174.177.76) by canpemm500002.china.huawei.com (7.192.104.244) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256) id 15.1.2375.24; Thu, 18 Aug 2022 15:52:02 +0800 Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/6] mm: hugetlb_vmemmap: add missing smp_wmb() before set_pte_at() To: Muchun Song , "Yin, Fengwei" CC: Andrew Morton , Mike Kravetz , Muchun Song , Linux MM , References: <20220816130553.31406-1-linmiaohe@huawei.com> <20220816130553.31406-5-linmiaohe@huawei.com> <0EAF1279-6A1C-41FA-9A32-414C36B3792A@linux.dev> <019c1272-9d01-9d51-91a0-2d656b25c318@intel.com> <18adbf89-473e-7ba6-9a2b-522e1592bdc6@huawei.com> <9c791de0-b702-1bbe-38a4-30e87d9d1b95@intel.com> <931536E2-3948-40AB-88A7-E36F67954AAA@linux.dev> From: Miaohe Lin Message-ID: <7be98c64-88a1-3bee-7f92-67bb1f4f495b@huawei.com> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2022 15:52:02 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <931536E2-3948-40AB-88A7-E36F67954AAA@linux.dev> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Originating-IP: [10.174.177.76] X-ClientProxiedBy: dggems705-chm.china.huawei.com (10.3.19.182) To canpemm500002.china.huawei.com (7.192.104.244) X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 2022/8/18 10:47, Muchun Song wrote: > > >> On Aug 18, 2022, at 10:00, Yin, Fengwei wrote: >> >> >> >> On 8/18/2022 9:55 AM, Miaohe Lin wrote: >>>>>> /* >>>>>> * The memory barrier inside __SetPageUptodate makes sure that >>>>>> * preceding stores to the page contents become visible before >>>>>> * the set_pte_at() write. >>>>>> */ >>>>>> __SetPageUptodate(page); >>>>> IIUC, the case here we should make sure others (CPUs) can see new page’s >>>>> contents after they have saw PG_uptodate is set. I think commit 0ed361dec369 >>>>> can tell us more details. >>>>> >>>>> I also looked at commit 52f37629fd3c to see why we need a barrier before >>>>> set_pte_at(), but I didn’t find any info to explain why. I guess we want >>>>> to make sure the order between the page’s contents and subsequent memory >>>>> accesses using the corresponding virtual address, do you agree with this? >>>> This is my understanding also. Thanks. >>> That's also my understanding. Thanks both. >> I have an unclear thing (not related with this patch directly): Who is response >> for the read barrier in the read side in this case? >> >> For SetPageUptodate, there are paring write/read memory barrier. >> > > I have the same question. So I think the example proposed by Miaohe is a little > difference from the case (hugetlb_vmemmap) here. Per my understanding, memory barrier in PageUptodate() is needed because user might access the page contents using page_address() (corresponding pagetable entry already exists) soon. But for the above proposed case, if user wants to access the page contents, the corresponding pagetable should be visible first or the page contents can't be accessed. So there should be a data dependency acting as memory barrier between pagetable entry is loaded and page contents is accessed. Or am I miss something? Thanks, Miaohe Lin