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From:   Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
Date:   Thu, 18 Aug 2022 21:21:56 -0400
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 resend 4/6] fs: Move call_rcu() to call_rcu_lazy() in
 some paths
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Cc:     Rushikesh S Kadam <rushikesh.s.kadam@intel.com>,
        "Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)" <urezki@gmail.com>,
        Neeraj upadhyay <neeraj.iitr10@gmail.com>,
        Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
        "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
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On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 7:05 PM Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 1:23 PM Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org> wrote:
> >
> > [Sorry, adding back the CC list]
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 11:45 PM Joel Fernandes (Google)
> > <joel@joelfernandes.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > This is required to prevent callbacks triggering RCU machinery too
> > > quickly and too often, which adds more power to the system.
> > >
> > > When testing, we found that these paths were invoked often when the
> > > system is not doing anything (screen is ON but otherwise idle).
> >
> > Unfortunately, I am seeing a slow down in ChromeOS boot performance
> > after applying this particular patch. It is the first time I could
> > test ChromeOS boot times with the series since it was hard to find a
> > ChromeOS device that runs the upstream kernel.
> >
> > Anyway, Vlad, Neeraj, do you guys also see slower boot times with this
> > patch? I wonder if the issue is with wake up interaction with the nocb
> > GP threads.
> >
> > We ought to disable lazy RCU during boot since it would have little
> > benefit anyway. But I am also concerned about some deeper problem I
> > did not catch before.
> >
> > I'll look into tracing the fs paths to see if I can narrow down what's
> > causing it. Will also try a newer kernel, I am currently testing on
> > 5.19-rc4.
>
> I got somewhere with this. It looks like queuing CBs as lazy CBs
> instead of normal CBs, are triggering expedited stalls during the boot
> process:
>
>   39.949198] rcu: INFO: rcu_preempt detected expedited stalls on
> CPUs/tasks: { } 28 jiffies s: 69 root: 0x0/.
>
> No idea how/why lazy RCU CBs would be related to expedited GP issues,
> but maybe something hangs and causes that side-effect.
>
> initcall_debug did not help, as it seems initcalls all work fine, and
> then 8 seconds after the boot, it starts slowing down a lot, followed
> by the RCU stall messages. As a next step I'll enable ftrace during
> the boot to see if I can get more insight. But I believe, its not the
> FS layer, the FS layer just triggers lazy CBs, but there is something
> wrong with the core lazy-RCU work itself.
>
> This kernel is 5.19-rc4. I'll also try to rebase ChromeOS on more
> recent kernels and debug.

More digging, thanks to trace_event= boot option , I find that the
boot process does have some synchronous waits, and though these are
"non-lazy", for some reason the lazy CBs that were previously queued
are making them wait for the *full* lazy duration. Which points to a
likely bug in the lazy RCU logic. These synchronous CBs should never
be waiting like the lazy ones:

[   17.715904]  => trace_dump_stack
[   17.715904]  => __wait_rcu_gp
[   17.715904]  => synchronize_rcu
[   17.715904]  => selinux_netcache_avc_callback
[   17.715904]  => avc_ss_reset
[   17.715904]  => sel_write_enforce
[   17.715904]  => vfs_write
[   17.715904]  => ksys_write
[   17.715904]  => do_syscall_64
[   17.715904]  => entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe

I'm tired so I'll resume the debug later.