Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755946AbXFLFM0 (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Jun 2007 01:12:26 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751763AbXFLFMT (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Jun 2007 01:12:19 -0400 Received: from spock.bluecherry.net ([66.138.159.248]:1561 "EHLO spock.bluecherry.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751760AbXFLFMS (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Jun 2007 01:12:18 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 01:12:10 -0400 From: "Zephaniah E. Hull" To: Dmitry Torokhov Cc: linux-input@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Input: Support for a less exclusive grab. Message-ID: <20070612051210.GW6362@aehallh.com> Mail-Followup-To: Dmitry Torokhov , linux-input@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20070609084800.GR6362@aehallh.com> <200706120107.13655.dtor@insightbb.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7a4X6VOqfbl9xMrG" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200706120107.13655.dtor@insightbb.com> X-Notice-1: Unsolicited Commercial Email (Aka SPAM) to ANY systems under X-Notice-2: our control constitutes a $US500 Administrative Fee, payable X-Notice-3: immediately. By sending us mail, you hereby acknowledge that X-Notice-4: policy and agree to the fee. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 3262 Lines: 90 --7a4X6VOqfbl9xMrG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 01:07:13AM -0400, Dmitry Torokhov wrote: > Hi Zephaniah, >=20 > On Saturday 09 June 2007 04:48, Zephaniah E. Hull wrote: > > EVIOCGRAB is nice and very useful, however over time I've gotten > > multiple requests to make it possible for applications to get events > > straight from the event device while xf86-input-evdev is getting events > > from the same device. > >=20 > > Here is the least invasive patch I could think of, it changes the > > behavior of EVIOCGRAB in some cases, specificly behavior is identical if > > the argument is 0 or 1, however if the argument is true and !=3D 1, then > > it does a 'non exclusive grab', a better name might be handy. > >=20 > > What this does is allow the events to go to everything that's using > > evdev to get events, but grabs it from anything else. =A0About as close= to > > what people want as I can get, and fairly non-invasive. >=20 > Unfortunately this also robs non-legacy input handlers (such as > rfkill-input) of input events. Does xf86-input-evdev really needs to > grab devices exclusively? I guess we can't abandon the standard > keyboard driver until X supports hotplugging. How close is it to > support devices coming and going? Er, to explain. The current EVIOCGRAB does an exclusive grab that prohibits rfkill-input and friends from working. As it is the only way to disable the legacy input handlers, xf86-input-evdev has been using it since we added it. The patch is to let us cause only things that use /dev/input/event to get events, thus, a non-exclusive grab. This basicly disables the legacy input handlers, and it's the least invasive patch I could think of. Going for a separate ioctl would also work, but in some ways it would make supporting it more of a pain. I don't care _that_ much either way, as long as we can get a way to disable the legacy events while allowing other things to get the events too. Zephaniah E. Hull. > =20 > If we can't remain as is until X hotplug is ready then I'd rather had > a separate ioctl that disables legacy input handlers (keyboard, mousedev) > for a given input device. >=20 > --=20 > Dmitry >=20 --=20 1024D/E65A7801 Zephaniah E. Hull 92ED 94E4 B1E6 3624 226D 5727 4453 008B E65A 7801 CCs of replies from mailing lists are requested. Welcome to [telco] hell. [...] You are in a maze of twisty little PVC's, all alike. A switching engineer throws a dart at you! -- Chris Saunderson in the scary.devil.monastery --7a4X6VOqfbl9xMrG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGbispRFMAi+ZaeAERAtJgAKDMeJrSesiOx9RcVJ17Hfz9N0ehEwCgrkR1 6M9S5wA3MjWJojxYEx4JwMQ= =p+PJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7a4X6VOqfbl9xMrG-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/