Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 21:15:11 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 19:13:08 -0500 Received: from neon-gw-l3.transmeta.com ([63.209.4.196]:17936 "EHLO neon-gw.transmeta.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id convert rfc822-to-8bit; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 13:46:04 -0500 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: "H. Peter Anvin" Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: OT: svscan and the hard disk Date: 3 Dec 2001 10:45:31 -0800 Organization: Transmeta Corporation, Santa Clara CA Message-ID: <9ugh8b$oh4$1@cesium.transmeta.com> In-Reply-To: <20011130123323.CED6DFA61@bugs.unl.edu.ar> <20011201002956.A3050@dardhal.mired.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Disclaimer: Not speaking for Transmeta in any way, shape, or form. Copyright: Copyright 2001 H. Peter Anvin - All Rights Reserved Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by deepthought.transmeta.com id fB3IjWi03462 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Followup to: <20011201002956.A3050@dardhal.mired.net> By author: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Luis_Domingo_L=F3pez?= In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel > > On Friday, 30 November 2001, at 09:33:21 -0300, > Mart?n Marqu?s wrote: > > > Any thoughts on what DJB thinks of the Linux FS? > > > > Sorry for him, each day I convince myself of not using Qmail ever! > > > Does this means that the opinions of those who don't think like you > doesn't quality, or worth being taken into account ?. > > How many times a week do you hear "subsystem X is broken", or "kernel > developer Y fucked this" on this list ?. Is this different from the same > facts, but being said by someone (DJB) who obviously has many people > against, for several reasons (many of them, non-technical ones) ? > > PS: first and last email from my part on this subject. > The thing about it, is that he seems to be complaining about *HIS OWN* bugs! If he relies on system calls having semantics any other than the one specified in the POSIX standard, his code is either fundamentally broken, or he needs it very clearly documented. He seems to be relying on "well, BSD behaved this way in the past" and then blames Linux when his assumptions fall apart. -hpa -- at work, in private! "Unix gives you enough rope to shoot yourself in the foot." http://www.zytor.com/~hpa/puzzle.txt - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/