Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 22:48:44 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 18:45:05 -0500 Received: from cisco7500-mainGW.gts.cz ([194.213.32.131]:59520 "EHLO Elf.ucw.cz") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 17:50:28 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 21:04:42 +0100 From: Pavel Machek To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Journaling pointless with today's hard disks? Message-ID: <20011203210442.A248@elf.ucw.cz> In-Reply-To: <01112715312104.01486@localhost> <20011128194302.A29500@emma1.emma.line.org> <01112813462404.01163@driftwood> <20011128231925.A7034@emma1.emma.line.org> <20011129232157.A211@elf.ucw.cz> <20011202010823.A5653@emma1.emma.line.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011202010823.A5653@emma1.emma.line.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-Warning: Reading this can be dangerous to your mental health. Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi! > > > Drives should never reassign blocks on read operations, because they'd > > > take away the chance to try to read that block for say four hours. > > > > Why not? If drive gets ECC-correctable read error, it seems to me like > > good time to reassign. > > Because you don't know if it's just some slipped bits, a shutdown during > write, or an actual fault. When that happens on a verify after write, > that's indeed reasonable. Otherwise the drive should just mark that > block as "watch closely on next write". Or better "write back and verify". You do not want even *ECC correctable* errors to be on your platters. Pavel -- "I do not steal MS software. It is not worth it." -- Pavel Kankovsky - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/