Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757545AbXFNAP2 (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:15:28 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751828AbXFNAPV (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:15:21 -0400 Received: from cantor2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:39833 "EHLO mx2.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750792AbXFNAPU (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:15:20 -0400 From: Neil Brown To: Daniel Hazelton Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:14:47 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18032.34935.616729.721945@notabene.brown> Cc: =?utf-8?q?J=C3=B6rn_Engel?= , Linus Torvalds , Alexandre Oliva , Greg KH , debian developer , "david@lang.hm" , Tarkan Erimer , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton , mingo@elte.hu Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 In-Reply-To: message from Daniel Hazelton on Wednesday June 13 References: <466BCBBC.90305@netone.net.tr> <20070613233541.GA27689@lazybastard.org> <200706131950.14683.dhazelton@enter.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 21.4.1 X-face: [Gw_3E*Gng}4rRrKRYotwlE?.2|**#s9D 1: Sheeple (n): People that act like sheep - ie: they cannot think or form > opinions for themselves and always look to someone else for their thoughts > and parrot the opinions of some "trusted" figure. I recommend that you avoid definitions like this. Using them simply makes you appear to have a very poor understanding of your fellow humans. "cannot" and "always" are absolutes that never apply (well, hardly ever). In my experience, most people do think for themselves and do form opinions about areas where they have an interest/ability, and tend to follow trusted others in areas where they have less interest or ability. The problem that I think you see is particularly the "parrot the opinions" bit. When a person tries to argue a case based largely on the opinion of someone else with little personal understanding, they are in very risky territory. This is akin to 'fundamentalism' that you also mentioned in your post. Accusing people of arguing opinions that are not their own may well be appropriate. Accusing them of not be able to think is not. NeilBrown - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/