Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758618AbXFNAut (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:50:49 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756784AbXFNAum (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:50:42 -0400 Received: from emailhub.stusta.mhn.de ([141.84.69.5]:34454 "EHLO mailhub.stusta.mhn.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756707AbXFNAum (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:50:42 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 02:50:54 +0200 From: Adrian Bunk To: Bongani Hlope Cc: Alexandre Oliva , Linus Torvalds , Lennart Sorensen , Greg KH , debian developer , "david@lang.hm" , Tarkan Erimer , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton , mingo@elte.hu Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 Message-ID: <20070614005054.GM3588@stusta.de> References: <200706140215.54179.bhlope@mweb.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200706140215.54179.bhlope@mweb.co.za> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15+20070412 (2007-04-11) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1729 Lines: 44 On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 02:15:53AM +0200, Bongani Hlope wrote: > On Thursday 14 June 2007 01:49:23 Alexandre Oliva wrote: > > On Jun 13, 2007, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > The fact is, Tivo didn't take those rights away from you, yet the FSF > > > says that what Tivo did was "against the spirit". That's *bullshit*. > > > > Oh, good, let's take this one. > > > > if you distribute copies of such a program, [...] > > you must give the recipients all the rights that you have > > > > So, TiVo includes a copy of Linux in its DVR. > > And they give you the same right that they had, which is obtain free software > that you can modify and redistribute. There's nothing in there that says they > should give you the tools they used after they received the software, which > is what you seem to be looking for. >... Wrong, the GPLv2 says: "For an executable work, complete source code means all the source code for all modules it contains, plus any associated interface definition files, plus the scripts used to control compilation and installation of the executable." The question is whether this includes private keys. Different people have different opinions regarding this issue. cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/