From: Daniel Hazelton <dhazelton@enter.net>
To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 23:49:41 -0400
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On Wednesday 13 June 2007 22:56:40 Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 10:43:14PM -0400, Daniel Hazelton wrote:
> > On Wednesday 13 June 2007 22:08:27 Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 09:40:13PM -0400, Daniel Hazelton wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday 13 June 2007 21:24:01 Adrian Bunk wrote:
> >
> >...
> >
> > > > > Either private keys required to run the kernel on the hardware are
> > > > > always considered part of "the complete source code" or they are
> > > > > never part of it.
> > > >
> > > > No. It all depends on the use-case. If the hardware is designed for
> > > > the user to install their own, custom versions of the code on then
> > > > the signing keys are part of the source as defined by the GPLv2.
> > > >
> > > > If, OTOH, the hardware was never meant for the end-user to install
> > > > custom versions of the software on, then while the signing keys are
> > > > still *technically* part of the source, in practice they are not.
> > > > Why? Because in most of those cases the end-user isn't granted the
> > > > right to install and run custom binaries on the hardware. If the
> > > > manufacturer provided the signing keys they'd be facilitating the
> > > > commission of a crime. (call it "Breach of Contract")
> > > >...
> > >
> > > Repetition doesn't let wrong things become true.
> > >
> > > Where does the GPLv2 talk about the distinction you are trying to make
> > > based on distributor intentions?
> > >
> > > We are talking about the GPLv2 licence text, not about what you would
> > > personally prefer.
> >
> > The GPLv2 doesn't have to cover this distinction to make it a reality.
> > This distinction is *EXACTLY* the type of distinction a lawyer will make
> > when arguing the point.
> >...
>
> Reality check:
>
> Harald convinced companies that they have to provide the private keys
> required to run the Linux kernel they ship on their hardware.

In Germany, not America. I should have qualified my statement to make it clear 
I mean "In America". Sorry about the confusion.

DRH

>
> cu
> Adrian


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