Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752614AbXFNFCG (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 01:02:06 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750745AbXFNFBz (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 01:01:55 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([66.187.233.31]:54506 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750771AbXFNFBy (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 01:01:54 -0400 To: Daniel Forrest Cc: Alan Cox , Chris Adams , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 References: <20070614013214.GA1124293@hiwaay.net> <20070614025248.6e0f72f0@the-village.bc.nu> <20070613212250.A21801@yoda.lmcg.wisc.edu> From: Alexandre Oliva Organization: Red Hat OS Tools Group Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 02:01:47 -0300 In-Reply-To: <20070613212250.A21801@yoda.lmcg.wisc.edu> (Daniel Forrest's message of "Wed\, 13 Jun 2007 21\:22\:50 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.990 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1577 Lines: 32 On Jun 13, 2007, Daniel Forrest wrote: > 1.) I ship the device back to the manufacturer, they replace the ROM, > and ship it back to me. > 2.) I ship the device back to the manufacturer, they load new code > into it, and ship it back to me. > How do these two differ? Or is it now just a question of the ROM > being in a socket? I can't see how the technicalities of how the > hardware is constructed can change the legality of the software. I don't see that they differ. If the software can be replaced, the manufacturer ought to tell you how to do it. It doesn't have to do it for you, it doesn't have to give you the hardware tools needed to do it, but if you're not able to start from the source code and the information provided by the manufacturer and get to a modified version of the software on the device, while the manufacturer could do it, then the manufacturer is locking you in, and therefore you're not free. This is a clear violation of the spirit of the license, even if the legalese might make room for some such misbehavior. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ FSF Latin America Board Member http://www.fsfla.org/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/