Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753198AbXFNHFs (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 03:05:48 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751624AbXFNHFk (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 03:05:40 -0400 Received: from barikada.upol.cz ([158.194.242.200]:51010 "EHLO barikada.upol.cz" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751034AbXFNHFk (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 03:05:40 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 09:18:02 +0200 To: "H. Peter Anvin" Cc: linux-kernel Subject: Re: arch/i386/boot rewrite, and all the hard-coded video cards Message-ID: <20070614071802.GJ7266@flower.upol.cz> References: <463698D5.20102@zytor.com> <4637A3F6.70508@gmail.com> <4637B6B5.5060502@zytor.com> <4670CDF0.808@zytor.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4670CDF0.808@zytor.com> Organization: Palacky University in Olomouc, experimental physics department. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) From: Oleg Verych Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1609 Lines: 34 On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 10:11:12PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > Oleg Verych wrote: > > Thus, text mode on modern hardware isn't useable that much, only with > > Terminus font it is kind of normal (kudos to Dimitar Toshkov Jekov). > > But it's only option to unfortunately sucking X11, even with memory > > bandwidth, you are talking about. > > That's another reason to use the framebuffer console on laptops. Last time i tried, it wasn't so much fun either. Mainly due to wild cursor, that in normal text mode is well-behaved thing. Visually fb looks much heavier. What's the benefit, if you see how windows in emacs are painted? I don't know how giga-hertz/mem in cpu/sys-ram, mega-hertz/ram in gpu are doing better job WRT to anything in visual domain. Also i don't know what to do in case of bugs/oops and "officially" closed hardware specs on ATI chips{ref}. About laptop. First and last time i ran new X11 (X.org) there, it drove VGA fan really crazy. Don't know how it changed now, it was certainly due to blindly switching 3D on. I don't want to remove *standard* drivers because of that stupidness [see ref]. And after whole year being with Debian Sarge only, new application update led me to just drop all that X stuff and run windoze (silently sold to me with that laptop) if i need a stupid web browser with all that WEB 2.0 and Java crap... ____ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/