Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752672AbXFNKmj (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 06:42:39 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751401AbXFNKmb (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 06:42:31 -0400 Received: from mtagate2.de.ibm.com ([195.212.29.151]:27379 "EHLO mtagate2.de.ibm.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751368AbXFNKma (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 06:42:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH] Documentation of kernel messages From: holzheu Reply-To: holzheu@linux.vnet.ibm.com To: Jan Kara Cc: Andrew Morton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, randy.dunlap@oracle.com, gregkh@suse.de, mtk-manpages@gmx.net, schwidefsky@de.ibm.com, heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com, "lf_kernel_messages@linux-foundation.org" In-Reply-To: <20070614094128.GF17819@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> References: <1181747217.29512.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20070613111549.db1fa4d9.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20070614094128.GF17819@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: IBM Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 12:38:53 +0200 Message-Id: <1181817533.10064.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 (2.0.2-27.rhel4.6) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1942 Lines: 54 On Thu, 2007-06-14 at 11:41 +0200, Jan Kara wrote: > > > > Your proposal is similar to one I made to some Japanese developers > > earlier this year. I was more modest, proposing that we > > > > - add an enhanced printk > > > > xxprintk(msgid, KERN_ERR "some text %d\n", some_number); > Maybe a stupid idea but why do we want to assign these numbers by hand? > I can imagine it could introduce collisions when merging tons of patches > with new messages... Wouldn't it be better to compute say, 8-byte hash > from the message and use it as it's identifier? We could do this > automagically at compile time. Of course automatically generated message numbers would be great and something like: hub.4a5bcd77: Detected some problem. looks acceptable for me. We could generate the hash using the format string of the printk. Since we specify the format string also in KMSG_DOC, the hash for the KMSG_DOC and the printk should match and we have the required link between printk and description. So technically that's probably doable. Problems are: * hashes are not unique * We need an additional preprocessor step * The might be people, who find 8 character hash values ugly in printks The big advantage is, that we do not need to maintain message numbers. > I know it also has it's problems - you > fix a spelling and the message gets a different id and you have to > update translation/documentation catalogue but maybe that could be > solved too... Since in our approach the message catalog is created automatically for exactly one kernel and the message catalog belongs therefore to exactly one kernel, I think the problem of changing error numbers is not too big. Michael - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/