Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754675AbXFNRRU (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 13:17:20 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752483AbXFNRRL (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 13:17:11 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([66.187.233.31]:56105 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752365AbXFNRRJ (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 13:17:09 -0400 To: Paul Mundt Cc: Daniel Hazelton , Linus Torvalds , Lennart Sorensen , Greg KH , debian developer , "david\@lang.hm" , Tarkan Erimer , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton , mingo@elte.hu Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 References: <200706132042.02728.dhazelton@enter.net> <200706132347.42371.dhazelton@enter.net> <20070614073232.GB22543@linux-sh.org> From: Alexandre Oliva Organization: Red Hat OS Tools Group Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 13:57:26 -0300 In-Reply-To: <20070614073232.GB22543@linux-sh.org> (Paul Mundt's message of "Thu\, 14 Jun 2007 16\:32\:32 +0900") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.990 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1546 Lines: 33 On Jun 14, 2007, Paul Mundt wrote: > I don't see how you can claim that the vendor is infringing on your > freedom, _you_ made the decision to go out and buy the product knowing > that the vendor wasn't going to go out of their way to help you hack > the device. But I also made this decision fully aware that the software included in the package was published under a license that said I was entitled to modify it. More than once I purchased a device that claimed to have GNU/Linux software on it, only to find out that I couldn't use the freedoms, because the distributor was infringing the license in various ways. > If you don't like what the vendor has done with the product, you have the > freedom to not support the vendor, and to try and encourage people to > follow suit. Sure. But wouldn't it be nice if the copyright holder could also help in this effort? It doesn't mean the copyright holder has to: s/he can always grant an additional permission, or simply refrain from enforcing this provision of the license. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ FSF Latin America Board Member http://www.fsfla.org/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/