Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754778AbXFNRap (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 13:30:45 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751495AbXFNRah (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 13:30:37 -0400 Received: from emailhub.stusta.mhn.de ([141.84.69.5]:35081 "EHLO mailhub.stusta.mhn.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751305AbXFNRah (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 13:30:37 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:30:49 +0200 From: Adrian Bunk To: Oleg Verych Cc: Stefan Richter , Linus Torvalds , Andi Kleen , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Diego Calleja , Chuck Ebbert , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21) Message-ID: <20070614173049.GU3588@stusta.de> References: <20070426040806.GJ3468@stusta.de> <200704291849.23197.rjw@sisk.pl> <20070429173725.GB30248@one.firstfloor.org> <46715FD4.6040803@s5r6.in-berlin.de> <20070614163923.GM7266@flower.upol.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070614163923.GM7266@flower.upol.cz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15+20070412 (2007-04-11) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2090 Lines: 54 On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 06:39:23PM +0200, Oleg Verych wrote: > On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 05:33:40PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: > [] > > [...] > > > Why you didn't proposed (used) Debian's BTS as alternative to bugzilla, > > [...] > > > > BTS has been mentioned in that thread in a few posts; mostly positively > > as I recall. > > I know, that most developers here are not working/familiar with what > Debian has as its bug shooting weapon ``The system is mainly controlled > by e-mail, but the bug reports can be viewed using the WWW.''[0]. > > I thought somebody, who familiar with that, might propose to setup/tune > it, but not doing yet another NIH thing, especially from e-mail > integration POV. I doubt mozilla guys can think about it without > javascript and/or java servlets :) >... The problem isn't Bugzilla, and the Debian BTS wouldn't solve any problem. What is missing? We need people who know one or more subsystems and who are willing to regularly handle bug reports in their area. And we need a release process that makes debugging, and if possible fixing, all regressions prior to the release mandatory. You might never come down to zero regressions and might not be able to handle all last-minute reported regressions, but the 2.6.21 situation with 3 week old known regressions not ever being debugged by a kernel developer before the release has much room for improvements. Changing the BTS would make sense if some core developers would state that they would start using the BTS after this change. But otherwise it doesn't matter which BTS to use. cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/